Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
Oh god, add another to the list of Naz excuses. Naz got beat by Barrera because Barrera's the better fighter.
The only one I haven't heard yet is that Naz was drugged.
I heard Naz was drugged for that fight
;D
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
Barrera is average?? How many fighters have won belts in 3 weight classes?
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
Barrera is average?? How many fighters have won belts in 3 weight classes?
duran
leonard
roy jones
james toney
hearns
arguello
fitzimmons
mayweather
chavez
henry armstrong (held them at the same time and was undisuted champ)
pernel whittaker
mccallum
and probably a whole lot more
delahoya
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
I know he is that's why he only beat one great fighter(srl)...but i guess that qualifies rahman, mccall, tarver, montell griffith, ruiz, and the list goes on.....
Duran padded his record then moved up and lost that doesn't make him great..just makes him tough...and no one said he wasn't one of the toughest fighters ever...
but if barrera is overrated, then Duran is the most overrated ever next to tyson....
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
I know he is that's why he only beat one great fighter(srl)...but i guess that qualifies rahman, mccall, tarver, montell griffith, ruiz, and the list goes on.....
Duran padded his record then moved up and lost that doesn't make him great..just makes him tough...and no one said he wasn't one of the toughest fighters ever...
but if barrera is overrated, then Duran is the most overrated ever next to tyson....
DURAN beat a peak leonard. beat an unbeaten moore to win his third title and outpointed a big middleweight in barkley to win his fourth title. Hardly padding his record.
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
I know he is that's why he only beat one great fighter(srl)...but i guess that qualifies rahman, mccall, tarver, montell griffith, ruiz, and the list goes on.....
Duran padded his record then moved up and lost that doesn't make him great..just makes him tough...and no one said he wasn't one of the toughest fighters ever...
but if barrera is overrated, then Duran is the most overrated ever next to tyson....
DURAN beat a peak leonard. beat an unbeaten moore to win his third title and outpointed a big middleweight in barkley to win his fourth title. Hardly padding his record.
I hope to God you're not talking davey moore...because he was that eras david reid....
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
Barrera is average?? How many fighters have won belts in 3 weight classes?
duran
leonard
roy jones
james toney
hearns
arguello
fitzimmons
mayweather
chavez
henry armstrong (held them at the same time and was undisuted champ)
pernel whittaker
mccallum
and probably a whole lot more
delahoya
Ok, that proves my point. Out of all the thousands of fighters in history, there were only 13 people who you could think of right away that were 3 division champs. Duran, Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Hearns, Mayweather..... that's pretty exclusive company if you ask me. I'd say all those guys were better than "average."
I'm not even a Barrera fan, but he is a great fighter and a no-doubt Hall Of Famer.
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
even barkley won titles in three divisions and he won a version of the heavyweight title.
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
Barrera is overated he lost to junior jones easily twice and he beat a weight drained naz.
barrera is overrated? i would have understood had you said duran ;D
Duran is an absolute 1000000000000000% legend. barrera is an average overhyped boxer.
Barrera is average?? How many fighters have won belts in 3 weight classes?
duran
leonard
roy jones
james toney
hearns
arguello
fitzimmons
mayweather
chavez
henry armstrong (held them at the same time and was undisuted champ)
pernel whittaker
mccallum
and probably a whole lot more
delahoya
Ok, that proves my point. Out of all the thousands of fighters in history, there were only 13 people who you could think of right away that were 3 division champs. Duran, Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Hearns, Mayweather..... that's pretty exclusive company if you ask me. I'd say all those guys were better than "average."
I'm not even a Barrera fan, but he is a great fighter and a no-doubt Hall Of Famer.
I know it's not like he named "nobody's" that virtual who's who of boxing..and to be in that company is great in itself..
and i'll add mosley and trinidad..and mention that i believe the greatest fighter ever only won in two divisions....
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
Trevor Berbwick beat Muhamad Ali ;)
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
Trevor Berbwick beat Muhamad Ali ;)
Jones beat a peak barrera. did berbick beat a peak ALI?
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
Trevor Berbwick beat Muhamad Ali ;)
Jones beat a peak barrera. did berbick beat a peak ALI?
No! but Norton did arguabley 3 times!!! All gr8 fighters have a Nemesis, styles make fights and all that!
PAC was simply the better fighter on the night - but would love to have seen that fight before MAB's wars with Morales ( neither MAB or Morales were the same after those fights)
Weigh up his achievements against his very few ' bad nights' the guy as just about as good as it gets imo
