Re: Poll: Gatti and Gomez. who wins and how.
I've gone with Gomez. Changed my mind. I don't think Gatti can do it anymore. I hope I'm wrong, because I want Chavez Jr. to be the one to beat him.
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I've gone with Gomez. Changed my mind. I don't think Gatti can do it anymore. I hope I'm wrong, because I want Chavez Jr. to be the one to beat him.
Gomez is a tune up fight, nothing more.
Re: Poll: Gatti and Gomez. who wins and how.
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Gatti by ko mid-late.
I think its funny that no one who has voted for gomez has voiced their logic yet. ;D
Well I voted for Gomez. Gatti is done and even at his best was never much better than Gomez anyhow.
Gomez is naturally bigger and has never been stopped whilst fighting the likes of Ishe Smith, Manfredo twice, Jesse Brinkley and Feliciano three times.
Feliciano to my mind represents a bigger threat right now than Gatti does especially considering how he knocked out that hot prospect undefeated fighter a few months back.
Gomez can take a punch whilst Getti cannot.
Gomez ends it in the late rounds.
What has Ishe, Peter, or either jesse done in their career thus far? Better yet have they even won a paper title in this day of many titles that could be held by anyone? I'll take a shot has been over a never will be anyday.
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Gatti by ko mid-late.
I think its funny that no one who has voted for gomez has voiced their logic yet. ;D
Well I voted for Gomez. Gatti is done and even at his best was never much better than Gomez anyhow.
Gomez is naturally bigger and has never been stopped whilst fighting the likes of Ishe Smith, Manfredo twice, Jesse Brinkley and Feliciano three times.
Feliciano to my mind represents a bigger threat right now than Gatti does especially considering how he knocked out that hot prospect undefeated fighter a few months back.
Gomez can take a punch whilst Getti cannot.
Gomez ends it in the late rounds.
The fact that Gomez has life and death fights with Feliciano pretty much tell you how mediocre Gomez really is. Gomez is in way over his head.
Indeed it does.
Just wait and see. I'm than happy to do a sig bet with both of you on this. Gatti is done, will be beaten by Gomez and will then retire.
I'll do a sig bet as long as it fits with the one i have now.
Well bilbo?
Re: Poll: Gatti and Gomez. who wins and how.
gatti scores a tko, ref jumps in and saves gomez from a brutal beatdown
Re: Poll: Gatti and Gomez. who wins and how.
Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
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Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
Baldimors ko percentage isn't much higher and he annihilated Gatti. Gomez is too big. To my knowledge Gatti has only ever beaten a single 147 lb fighter and that was Damgaard. Gomez has held his own as high as 160 lb, is several years younger and has not been in the wars Gatti has.
I'm not saying that Gomez is a better fighter than Gatti any more than I'm saying Zahir Ramheem is a better fghter than Morales.
Still Gatti is done, is fighting someone too big and will get his ass handed to him yet again.
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Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
Baldimors ko percentage isn't much higher and he annihilated Gatti. Gomez is too big. To my knowledge Gatti has only ever beaten a single 147 lb fighter and that was Damgaard. Gomez has held his own as high as 160 lb, is several years younger and has not been in the wars Gatti has.
I'm not saying that Gomez is a better fighter than Gatti any more than I'm saying Zahir Ramheem is a better fghter than Morales.
Still Gatti is done, is fighting someone too big and will get his ass handed to him yet again.
We shall see.
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Gatti by ko mid-late.
I think its funny that no one who has voted for gomez has voiced their logic yet. ;D
Well I voted for Gomez. Gatti is done and even at his best was never much better than Gomez anyhow.
Gomez is naturally bigger and has never been stopped whilst fighting the likes of Ishe Smith, Manfredo twice, Jesse Brinkley and Feliciano three times.
Feliciano to my mind represents a bigger threat right now than Gatti does especially considering how he knocked out that hot prospect undefeated fighter a few months back.
Gomez can take a punch whilst Getti cannot.
Gomez ends it in the late rounds.
The fact that Gomez has life and death fights with Feliciano pretty much tell you how mediocre Gomez really is. Gomez is in way over his head.
I agree I don't think Gomez is world class but neither is Gatti. Gatti hasn't beaten a name opponent in 4 years. Gomez is 2 inches taller, has fought as high as 160 lbs and has never been stopped. He's also in the prime of his career.
Of his opponents I'd favour Manfredo, Ishe Smith, Felciano, Brinkley and even Ahmed Kuddour to do a number on Arturo Gatti.
Gatti is completely and utterly shot. This will be entertaing for a few rounds. Gatti will probably go down at least twice and probably three times, before being saved by the ref in round 10.
Gatti is shot. He's been shot for awhile. But even a shot Gatti destroys Gomez. Gomez has little to no power. And his defense is just as bad as Gatti's. If not worse. Gomez corner better be paying attention. Cuz Gomez could get hurt badly in this fight.
Baldimor proved you don't need power to beat Gatti, just be naturally bigger and pressure him. Gomez can do that.
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Gatti wins on the cards. Gomez will be outclassed as all the Contender fighters have been and will be as they step up. Baldimor is much better than Gomez (handed Zab his azz) . You cant compare the two. You know Zab would destroy Gomez.
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Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
Baldimors ko percentage isn't much higher and he annihilated Gatti. Gomez is too big. To my knowledge Gatti has only ever beaten a single 147 lb fighter and that was Damgaard.
Gomez has held his own as high as 160 lb, is several years younger and has not been in the wars Gatti has.
I'm not saying that Gomez is a better fighter than Gatti any more than I'm saying Zahir Ramheem is a better fghter than Morales.
Still Gatti is done, is fighting someone too big and will get his ass handed to him yet again.
Who did he fight near 160 pounds? Season 1 contender bums, thats it. As shot as gatti maybe be, we're taking about gomez. We ain't even talking about a good fighter, fighters that gatti has beaten already thruout his career, we're talking about gomez. ;D Gotta love A.I.
I've accepted your sig bet bilbo.
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Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
Baldimors ko percentage isn't much higher and he annihilated Gatti. Gomez is too big. To my knowledge Gatti has only ever beaten a single 147 lb fighter and that was Damgaard.
Gomez has held his own as high as 160 lb, is several years younger and has not been in the wars Gatti has.
I'm not saying that Gomez is a better fighter than Gatti any more than I'm saying Zahir Ramheem is a better fghter than Morales.
Still Gatti is done, is fighting someone too big and will get his a** handed to him yet again.
Who did he fight near 160 pounds? Season 1 contender bums, thats it. As shot as gatti maybe be, we're taking about gomez. We ain't even talking about a good fighter, fighters that gatti has beaten already thruout his career, we're talking about gomez. ;D Gotta love A.I.
I've accepted your sig bet bilbo.
Ok I'll accept your sig bet also. We can plan what we want the others to say nearer the time.
There are no impressive wins on Gatti's record unless you count Mickey Ward or Jesse James Leija, he's basically lost to every decent fighter he's ever faced.
Gomez ain't much I'll give you that but truth be told you don't need to be much to beat Gatti. Any world class fighter from 140 - 147 would beat Gatti's ass right now and a decent journyman fighter like Gomez should be able to beat him fairly comfortably also.
Gatti's only chance is to stay on the outside and box, but Gomez's boxing skills ain't too bad, remember he was boxing Felcianco's head off for the first 5 rounds in their last fight and he outboxed Manfredo who whether you rate him or not was still ranked number 3 in the world by the WBO when they fought.
Has Gatti ever even defeated a world ranked fighter? ???
I'm presuming he must have in order to have won two titles but he's certainly not done it in the past 5 or 6 years.
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Gatti by way of stoppage! He will then fight Julio Cesar Chaves Jr and we will see his undeafted reign end :)
i'm sorry but at this point and time i think that Chavez Jr. is WAY too big for Gatti and that Chavez will pummel him with that beautiful left hook to the body and back to the head combo
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Take away gomez's last 2 fights against fellow bums and you have a 14-3-2 record fighter with 5 ko's (a slightly better than 33% ko ratio is gonna ko gatti? ::** ). He has no business fighting even a washed up world level fighter. If he wasn't on a tv show where he beat a then undefeated manfredo (who turned out to be an even more overrated fighter) you would be sitting here today bilbo and calling him a bum just like everyone else.
Baldimors ko percentage isn't much higher and he annihilated Gatti. Gomez is too big. To my knowledge Gatti has only ever beaten a single 147 lb fighter and that was Damgaard.
Gomez has held his own as high as 160 lb, is several years younger and has not been in the wars Gatti has.
I'm not saying that Gomez is a better fighter than Gatti any more than I'm saying Zahir Ramheem is a better fghter than Morales.
Still Gatti is done, is fighting someone too big and will get his a** handed to him yet again.
Who did he fight near 160 pounds? Season 1 contender bums, thats it. As shot as gatti maybe be, we're taking about gomez. We ain't even talking about a good fighter, fighters that gatti has beaten already thruout his career, we're talking about gomez. ;D Gotta love A.I.
I've accepted your sig bet bilbo.
Ok I'll accept your sig bet also. We can plan what we want the others to say nearer the time.
There are no impressive wins on Gatti's record unless you count Mickey Ward or Jesse James Leija, he's basically lost to every decent fighter he's ever faced.
Gomez ain't much I'll give you that but truth be told you don't need to be much to beat Gatti. Any world class fighter from 140 - 147 would beat Gatti's ass right now and a decent journyman fighter like Gomez should be able to beat him fairly comfortably also.
Gatti's only chance is to stay on the outside and box, but Gomez's boxing skills ain't too bad, remember he was boxing Felcianco's head off for the first 5 rounds in their last fight and he outboxed Manfredo who whether you rate him or not was still ranked number 3 in the world by the WBO when they fought.
Has Gatti ever even defeated a world ranked fighter? ???
I'm presuming he must have in order to have won two titles but he's certainly not done it in the past 5 or 6 years.
Like i said before, i'll take somebody with a great past over somebody who has no future anyday.
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Gatti by way of stoppage! He will then fight Julio Cesar Chaves Jr and we will see his undeafted reign end :)
i'm sorry but at this point and time i think that Chavez Jr. is WAY too big for Gatti and that Chavez will pummel him with that beautiful left hook to the body and back to the head combo
I dont no, it would be close i suppose. But i just think Gatti is just too good for him at this stage of his carrer. I think it would be Gattis last fight and that would give him a good acentive to win!
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Gatti still has all his power. the only problem was baldomire could take it, I'll bet my last dollar Gomez cant
Gatti Ko
Not only that Gatti will give Chavez a few problems
