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No, Ted, he hit the deck from a solid counter from argentine Juan Roldan seconds into the fight... And I believe he also struggled against Mustapha Hamsho but was knockdown only by Roldan. JCC was also caught in the way in by a fast counter by the Surgeon in the 11th, that and the two points taken from Chavez by R. Steele for borderline blows costed him the decision ( split decision and 1st loss)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
that would've KO'd 99.99% of Earth's populationQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
:coolclick: I like that. :D
Officially yes, it was ruled a knockdown. But Rodan actually pushed him down when he missed a punch and his arm more pushed him dowm
Watson floored Eubank and almost KO'd him. Eubank was out on his feet, got floored, got back up and immediately floored Watson with the fateful punch that left him in a come for several days and permanently damaged until this day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It's a double tragedy in that the sad aftermath of the fight marred what was possibly the greatest and most brutal domestic showdown in British history.
Yeah, but not as solid as the Queen Mother's gins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Hagler had an amazing chin but common, you gotta give the "hardest man to put down" award to George Chuvalo. Guys like Hearns, Mugabi, Roldan, ect hit hard but you can't compare taking punches from them to taking punches from George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Patterson, and other HW fighters and not going down. I mean the shots he took from Foreman without going down is just unreal, Chuvalo has any "best chin" award locked down IMO
Does anyone know why Hagler and Hearns did not do a re-match????? Those two would have made a great trilogy, although they would probabaly both be dead after the third fight?
Rarely do people want to fight Hearns, (Barclay needed the cash)Leonard avoided it because he knew he would get beat and only agreed because Hearns was vulnerable at the time (and how the judges scored it a draw I will never know)
The only real question I have about Hagler vs. Chuvalo is that Hagler was hit as he was being aggressive and in the middle of throwing his punches. And he still did not go down. Chuvala would be nailed but not as much as he was countering. Hagler was hit during exchanges where he was caught off guard and didn't go down with Hearns or Mugabi. Cannot get better than being hit by those guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
The fight was going to happen. Hagler/Mugabi and Hearns/Shuler was scheduled for Nov. 1985 and Hagler got an injury in sparring and the card was postponed until March 10, 1986. Both won and they were going to fight in Nov. 1986.. But in May Sugar Ray Leonard announced he wanted to fight Hagler, and after Hagler took a little time to decided he signed to fight Ray. You cannot blame him. He had already fought Hearns so the idea to fight someone new who was also a legend was intriging to him. Had he fought Hearns and lost it would not have been good for his legacy. One thing about Hearns and Hagler. Hearns would have hit Hagler again clean in a rematch. And if his hand had held up Hagler would have been tested again big time. I am not sure Hagler wanted the Hearns fight really. I always thought he tasted the right hand and got through the fight with a win, but he did not want to fight Hearns again. Could he have beaten Hearns in a rematch? yeah since his style was a good matchup for Hearns and Marvin had more consistent stamina than Tommy. Somehow the Hagler style matches well with Hearns. Although, I would have been interested in seeing a more natural middleweight Hearns without a broken hand landing more leverage punches against a not as wild Hagler in a rematch. Would have been a fascinating fight and this time it would have probably gone into the later rounds with Hearns fighting a more normal pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by racso3073