WLAD THE IMPALER

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Originally Posted by Fire

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

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Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Its hard to say even current Wlad without the chin or stamina would do against Ali, Holmes, etc. I think they would beat him, but his height and jab would match theirs IMO. He has so much more power behind his jab than Ali, and even more than Holmes that they would eventually become hesitant to throw theirs. Ali had a lot of trouble with boxers and I think Wlad would give him a hard time.

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a big thing in comparing these boxers is to realize ali built alot of his record fighting modern-day cruiserweights... not to take anything away from ali but he fought very small competition compared to wlad...

i dont think people realize how small ali, frazier would look in the ring with the 6'6 and 1/2 wlad.... And wlad has a fuc*inf fast 1,2 very quick jabs and lead rights for ANY HW

if wlad was 6'2 210 yeah i think ali, holmes, frazier those guys would beat him hands down but the reality is 6'6 and 1/2 240+ chiziled klitchko aint no damn 6'0 198 pounder from georgia...

wlad will throw on your a$$ no matter how hard you hit(mercer, brewster, peter) or how good your defence is(byrd) and will take you out quick if your arnt a true contender(austin,brock)

klitchko dont win by decisions... he IS THE HEAVEYWEIGHT THAT EVERYONE HAS HOPED FOR

i like vitali which is most people's fav. cause he is the easy choice (he done well vs. lewis, good chin) but if you have followed the klithcko's for years almost everyone's pick on who is the best(including vitali) is wlad.... he has matured into a better defence fighter w/ chin like that of vitali's but believe me wlad is ALOT MORE EXPLOSIVELY ON OFFENCE...
wlad is better.....

Foreman 82 inch reach
Klitschko 81 inch reach
Can we stop now

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fire

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

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Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

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brock

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Originally Posted by Fire

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Its hard to say even current Wlad without the chin or stamina would do against Ali, Holmes, etc. I think they would beat him, but his height and jab would match theirs IMO. He has so much more power behind his jab than Ali, and even more than Holmes that they would eventually become hesitant to throw theirs. Ali had a lot of trouble with boxers and I think Wlad would give him a hard time.

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a big thing in comparing these boxers is to realize ali built alot of his record fighting modern-day cruiserweights... not to take anything away from ali but he fought very small competition compared to wlad...

i dont think people realize how small ali, frazier would look in the ring with the 6'6 and 1/2 wlad.... And wlad has a fuc*inf fast 1,2 very quick jabs and lead rights for ANY HW

if wlad was 6'2 210 yeah i think ali, holmes, frazier those guys would beat him hands down but the reality is 6'6 and 1/2 240+ chiziled klitchko aint no damn 6'0 198 pounder from georgia...

wlad will throw on your a$$ no matter how hard you hit(mercer, brewster, peter) or how good your defence is(byrd) and will take you out quick if your arnt a true contender(austin,brock)

klitchko dont win by decisions... he IS THE HEAVEYWEIGHT THAT EVERYONE HAS HOPED FOR

i like vitali which is most people's fav. cause he is the easy choice (he done well vs. lewis, good chin) but if you have followed the klithcko's for years almost everyone's pick on who is the best(including vitali) is wlad.... he has matured into a better defence fighter w/ chin like that of vitali's but believe me wlad is ALOT MORE EXPLOSIVELY ON OFFENCE...
wlad is better.....

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Are you kidding ?? Ali fought bigger men than that before Terrell was was 6 foot 6 and Foreman was big 220 fighter aswell just to point out that Mercer was 40+ and was only good fighter on inside and sucked when someone didn't fight his fight he got outboxed by 40+ Larry Holmes and Jesse Ferguson and to top it off he was way way past his prime when he fought Wlad Brewster is just a brawler thats it and Peter is just a brawler but has improved since his fight with Wlad and size isn't always better remember Ali Foreman and Holmes were no small frys they were each 6 foot 3 and around 215 220 Wlad is good fighter with good skills but imo he isn't as skilled as Ali or Holmes and would lose in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by Fire

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fire

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

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Wlad fought 40 year old Mercer lets not be silly now and i suppose DaVarryl Williamson is crushing hitter aswell ?? because he put Wlad on the deck aswell name me one fight where Wlad has took flush shot and hasn't been wobbled stopped or knocked down.

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Brock isn't that much of a power puncher and i don't remember him hitting Wlad flush either.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Foreman 82 inch reach
Klitschko 81 inch reach
Can we stop now

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what??? yeah that proves everything i said wrong... :Sarcasm:

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Originally Posted by Fire

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Foreman 82 inch reach
Klitschko 81 inch reach
Can we stop now

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what??? yeah that proves everything i said wrong... :Sarcasm:

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Yes,actually it does
Your entire argument on how Wlad would have done against the old timers is his height
The main advantage of height is reach
Well Foremans was longer

Thats right Wlad is the best of this time Ali was the best of yesteryear. Ali only fought a few men that were close to Wlad's weight and height and those he won by decision. Take Joe Bugner( weight 230 at 6' 4)ALI won by decision and Bugner has been ko'd by lesser fighters, Buster Mathis (weight 256 at 6' 3) Ali won by decision Mathis also has been ko'd by lesser fighters,Duke Sabedong (weight 225 at 6' 6) again Ali won by a decision and again this boxer had been stopped by lesser fighters and none of these men didn't have the skills that Wlad has.The moral to the story is Ali had a problem with bigger men with lesser skills so therefor he would have had a big problem with Wlad.And as for the overrated Larry Holmes most of his wins were from fighters with terrible records yeah he did pop the cherries of a few young undefeated fighters like Carl Williams,David Bey,Tim Witherspoon(by Split decision)and the overrated Gerry Cooney yes he did beat some of the greats that were out of their prime the only good fighter he beat in his prime was Ray Mercer he did outpoint him( Wlad ko'd him).Moral to the story he would have ducked Wlad like he did big George.As for George Foreman he would have been more trouble for Wlad than the rest. peace out mofos

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS

Thats right Wlad is the best of this time Ali was the best of yesteryear. Ali only fought a few men that were close to Wlad's weight and height and those he won by decision. Take Joe Bugner( weight 230 at 6' 4)ALI won by decision and Bugner has been ko'd by lesser fighters, Buster Mathis (weight 256 at 6' 3) Ali won by decision Mathis also has been ko'd by lesser fighters,Duke Sabedong (weight 225 at 6' 6) again Ali won by a decision and again this boxer had been stopped by lesser fighters and none of these men didn't have the skills that Wlad has.The moral to the story is Ali had a problem with bigger men with lesser skills so therefor he would have had a big problem with Wlad.And as for the overrated Larry Holmes most of his wins were from fighters with terrible records yeah he did pop the cherries of a few young undefeated fighters like Carl Williams,David Bey,Tim Witherspoon(by Split decision)and the overrated Gerry Cooney yes he did beat some of the greats that were out of their prime the only good fighter he beat in his prime was Ray Mercer he did outpoint him( Wlad ko'd him).Moral to the story he would have ducked Wlad like he did big George.As for George Foreman he would have been more trouble for Wlad than the rest. peace out mofos

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One question for you: By decision you mean complete blow out with superior skill as opposed to really close barely hanging on? Ali decisioned a lot of fighters, that doesn't mean he "struggled" with them. He was a boxer not a puncher. Saying he struggled greatly against anyone except norton and lyle (which was when he was way past it anyway) is a bit of a reach.

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS

Thats right Wlad is the best of this time Ali was the best of yesteryear. Ali only fought a few men that were close to Wlad's weight and height and those he won by decision. Take Joe Bugner( weight 230 at 6' 4)ALI won by decision and Bugner has been ko'd by lesser fighters, Buster Mathis (weight 256 at 6' 3) Ali won by decision Mathis also has been ko'd by lesser fighters,Duke Sabedong (weight 225 at 6' 6) again Ali won by a decision and again this boxer had been stopped by lesser fighters and none of these men didn't have the skills that Wlad has.The moral to the story is Ali had a problem with bigger men with lesser skills so therefor he would have had a big problem with Wlad.And as for the overrated Larry Holmes most of his wins were from fighters with terrible records yeah he did pop the cherries of a few young undefeated fighters like Carl Williams,David Bey,Tim Witherspoon(by Split decision)and the overrated Gerry Cooney yes he did beat some of the greats that were out of their prime the only good fighter he beat in his prime was Ray Mercer he did outpoint him( Wlad ko'd him).Moral to the story he would have ducked Wlad like he did big George.As for George Foreman he would have been more trouble for Wlad than the rest. peace out mofos

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Overrated Larry Holmes ?? now you are talking crap Holmes was out of his prime 40+ gave Mercer a lesson Mercer was 40+ and shot to bits when Wlad fought him.

Holmes fought

Ken Norton
Earnie Shavers
Tim Witherspoon
Gerry Cooney

This 3 names alone make anything Wlad has fought look garbage to be honest and Bugner was shot when he fought Mathias Bugner was normally pretty durable in his prime he went distance with Frazier aswell actually i just made a mistake and so did you Bugner never fought Mathias ???

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS

Thats right Wlad is the best of this time Ali was the best of yesteryear. Ali only fought a few men that were close to Wlad's weight and height and those he won by decision. Take Joe Bugner( weight 230 at 6' 4)ALI won by decision and Bugner has been ko'd by lesser fighters, Buster Mathis (weight 256 at 6' 3) Ali won by decision Mathis also has been ko'd by lesser fighters,Duke Sabedong (weight 225 at 6' 6) again Ali won by a decision and again this boxer had been stopped by lesser fighters and none of these men didn't have the skills that Wlad has.The moral to the story is Ali had a problem with bigger men with lesser skills so therefor he would have had a big problem with Wlad.And as for the overrated Larry Holmes most of his wins were from fighters with terrible records yeah he did pop the cherries of a few young undefeated fighters like Carl Williams,David Bey,Tim Witherspoon(by Split decision)and the overrated Gerry Cooney yes he did beat some of the greats that were out of their prime the only good fighter he beat in his prime was Ray Mercer he did outpoint him( Wlad ko'd him).Moral to the story he would have ducked Wlad like he did big George.As for George Foreman he would have been more trouble for Wlad than the rest. peace out mofos

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George Foreman 6'3"
Ali by KO
I like the Klitschkos,and think Wlad's the best one in the division,but lets not be ridiculous off a win over Brewster for gods sake

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fire

Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his a** down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

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Lewis proved having a chin with wars vs Vitali + Mercer getting hit flush by Bruno and Mason whenever Wlad get hits flush he always seem to be put down or wobbled and shortly stopped after.

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Vitali never hit him on his button either like Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall but the KO was in the makeing lucky for Lewis Vitali got cut.Unlike Lewis Wlad has never been ko'd just tko'd

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fire

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Its hard to say even current Wlad without the chin or stamina would do against Ali, Holmes, etc. I think they would beat him, but his height and jab would match theirs IMO. He has so much more power behind his jab than Ali, and even more than Holmes that they would eventually become hesitant to throw theirs. Ali had a lot of trouble with boxers and I think Wlad would give him a hard time.

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a big thing in comparing these boxers is to realize ali built alot of his record fighting modern-day cruiserweights... not to take anything away from ali but he fought very small competition compared to wlad...

i dont think people realize how small ali, frazier would look in the ring with the 6'6 and 1/2 wlad.... And wlad has a fuc*inf fast 1,2 very quick jabs and lead rights for ANY HW

if wlad was 6'2 210 yeah i think ali, holmes, frazier those guys would beat him hands down but the reality is 6'6 and 1/2 240+ chiziled klitchko aint no damn 6'0 198 pounder from georgia...

wlad will throw on your a$$ no matter how hard you hit(mercer, brewster, peter) or how good your defence is(byrd) and will take you out quick if your arnt a true contender(austin,brock)

klitchko dont win by decisions... he IS THE HEAVEYWEIGHT THAT EVERYONE HAS HOPED FOR

i like vitali which is most people's fav. cause he is the easy choice (he done well vs. lewis, good chin) but if you have followed the klithcko's for years almost everyone's pick on who is the best(including vitali) is wlad.... he has matured into a better defence fighter w/ chin like that of vitali's but believe me wlad is ALOT MORE EXPLOSIVELY ON OFFENCE...
wlad is better.....

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Are you kidding ?? Ali fought bigger men than that before Terrell was was 6 foot 6 and Foreman was big 220 fighter aswell just to point out that Mercer was 40+ and was only good fighter on inside and sucked when someone didn't fight his fight he got outboxed by 40+ Larry Holmes and Jesse Ferguson and to top it off he was way way past his prime when he fought Wlad Brewster is just a brawler thats it and Peter is just a brawler but has improved since his fight with Wlad and size isn't always better remember Ali Foreman and Holmes were no small frys they were each 6 foot 3 and around 215 220 Wlad is good fighter with good skills but imo he isn't as skilled as Ali or Holmes and would lose in my eyes.

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terrel weighs 212 forman 216 frazier 212 holmes 217 WLAD 240+

i'm not saying wlad would definatliy win... but he would be very competitive...

brewster is bigger than forman and ali and he looked small against the klitchko... most of ali fights his opponents were around 6'1 190-220 ...
he might of fought a couple of guys as big as wlad but they wasnt near the athlete klitchko is...

ali biggest weakness like all great HW's is someone who could hurt him with one punch both of ali's losses in his prime came to men(smaller than wlad) that could hit very hard norton, frazier and he had problems against forman...

klicthko would beat ali atleast one out of three times

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

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Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS

Thats right Wlad is the best of this time Ali was the best of yesteryear. Ali only fought a few men that were close to Wlad's weight and height and those he won by decision. Take Joe Bugner( weight 230 at 6' 4)ALI won by decision and Bugner has been ko'd by lesser fighters, Buster Mathis (weight 256 at 6' 3) Ali won by decision Mathis also has been ko'd by lesser fighters,Duke Sabedong (weight 225 at 6' 6) again Ali won by a decision and again this boxer had been stopped by lesser fighters and none of these men didn't have the skills that Wlad has.The moral to the story is Ali had a problem with bigger men with lesser skills so therefor he would have had a big problem with Wlad.And as for the overrated Larry Holmes most of his wins were from fighters with terrible records yeah he did pop the cherries of a few young undefeated fighters like Carl Williams,David Bey,Tim Witherspoon(by Split decision)and the overrated Gerry Cooney yes he did beat some of the greats that were out of their prime the only good fighter he beat in his prime was Ray Mercer he did outpoint him( Wlad ko'd him).Moral to the story he would have ducked Wlad like he did big George.As for George Foreman he would have been more trouble for Wlad than the rest. peace out mofos

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One question for you: By decision you mean complete blow out with superior skill as opposed to really close barely hanging on? Ali decisioned a lot of fighters, that doesn't mean he "struggled" with them. He was a boxer not a puncher. Saying he struggled greatly against anyone except norton and lyle (which was when he was way past it anyway) is a bit of a reach.

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Ali was no different than any other fighter (go for the ko every chance you get)they don't enter the ring just to dance.