American Boxers Overrated?

You're right, I probably got over analytical about it. But I don't care about the average Joe knowing who Vitali or Ali is. This is what bothers me most about the game, the average Joe needs to be involvrd so the $$$ rolls in. Guys like Jack Johnson and Robinson, Braddock fighting for their lives. Again, over analytical, but JMO. Tyson fought to kill people,lol.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

You're right, I probably got over analytical about it. But I don't care about the average Joe knowing who Vitali or Ali is. This is what bothers me most about the game, the average Joe needs to be involvrd so the $$$ rolls in. Guys like Jack Johnson and Robinson, Braddock fighting for their lives. Again, over analytical, but JMO. Tyson fought to kill people,lol.

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I :coolclick: you. I'm always favourable when people agree with me, because it means they got it right ;D ;D ;D

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Originally Posted by danchar123

Don't get me wrong im not saying all American fighters are overrated but IMO the America media (and also the American public) can often hype up American fighters (past and present fighters) far too much. A few examples being.......

M.Tyson (IMO a very good fighter but not a top 5/10 Heavy of all time as many seem to belive)
M.Ali (a very very talented boxer but not top 1 or 2 p4p great as i have seen written on this forum many a time)
Jermaine Taylor (has been in the p4p rankings for sometime now and i think he still is isn't he? IMO he has the skills but just doesn't use them and he wouldnt be in the top 10 p4p rankings if he wasnt American)
Jeff Lacy (Was predicted to do great things in the 168lb division by the Americans but came completely unstuck when he faced Calzaghe)


Anyways.... Im not trying to be anti American here im just stating my opinion and wanted to know if anyone else agrees/disagrees and the reasons why. Cheers

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I would say your argument is a bit out dated. Its no secret that the Europeans have landed ;)

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

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Originally Posted by LEGION

You're right, I probably got over analytical about it. But I don't care about the average Joe knowing who Vitali or Ali is. This is what bothers me most about the game, the average Joe needs to be involvrd so the $$$ rolls in. Guys like Jack Johnson and Robinson, Braddock fighting for their lives. Again, over analytical, but JMO. Tyson fought to kill people,lol.

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I :coolclick: you. I'm always favourable when people agree with me, because it means they got it right ;D ;D ;D

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That's great, I knew I'd get a cool click if I humbled myself. Now I can disagree with you again.... na na na na ;D J.K. bro'; though I think you know what I was saying in my post.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

and believe it or not, i know this is going to sound far fetched. But there are more americans in america than there are UK peeps in america.

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I think in the UK it's different. We've got more immigrants than natives, they certainly have a bigger political voice anyhow.

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At the end of the day we all immigrated from somewhere i guess. I know what you mean though we certainly have lots of eastern Europeans in the UK now.

If either of the klitschko brother were american then they would be the most famous human on the planet

American boxers are indeed very overrated. Not only "real" American boxers but also boxers fighting out of the US.

prove your point, dont just spew off at the mouth pretending to make a valid point.

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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

prove your point, dont just spew off at the mouth pretending to make a valid point.

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Jeff Lacy

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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44

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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

prove your point, dont just spew off at the mouth pretending to make a valid point.

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Jeff Lacy

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He had two titles,so how was he overrated?
He went through Vanderpool,Sheika,Reid and Pemberton
He didnt have enough experience for Calzeghe,but I dont see how you "overrate" the IBF-IBO champion

Once again, an old arguement ::**

Jeff Lacy was Overrated. But that was some time ago now ;)

I didnt see 'American Boxers being overrated' ever being a problem.... The problem was the Eastern European guys not getting the exposure. But like i say, this is all a very old arguement now.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44

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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

prove your point, dont just spew off at the mouth pretending to make a valid point.

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Jeff Lacy

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He had two titles,so how was he overrated?
He went through Vanderpool,Sheika,Reid and Pemberton
He didnt have enough experience for Calzeghe,but I dont see how you "overrate" the IBF-IBO champion

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Then take off your sun-glases

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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Peter Plys 44

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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

prove your point, dont just spew off at the mouth pretending to make a valid point.

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Jeff Lacy

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He had two titles,so how was he overrated?
He went through Vanderpool,Sheika,Reid and Pemberton
He didnt have enough experience for Calzeghe,but I dont see how you "overrate" the IBF-IBO champion

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Then take off your sun-glases

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What are glases?
He was a champ,and he wasnt good enough for Calzeghe,another champ
Again how do you "overrate" a guy with two belts
Gee I guess if Lacy was "overrated" then Joe doesnt have a single great win
Guess its Welsh fighters that are "overrated"

Every country over hypes their fighters not just America....Deny it if you will but it is the truth....
here are a few of our overhyped fighters over the years

Joe Louis Joe Frazier
Jack Dempsey Muhammad Ali
Rocky Marciano Bob Foster
AAron Pryor Gene Fullmer
Ray Leonard Winky Wright
Thomas Hearns Terry Norris
Marvin Hagler Wilfred Benietez
Roy Jones Pernell Whitaker
Bernard Hopkins Michael Moorer
Henry Armstrong George Foreman
Ray Robinson Willie Pastrano
Carmen Bassilio Shane Mosley
Mike Tyson Felix Trinidad
Larry Holmes Meldrick Taylor
James Toney Riddick Bowe
Sonny Liston Michael Nunn
Michael Spinks Willie Pep
Oscar De La Hoya Jack Johnson
Floyd Mayweather John L Sullivan
Miguel Cotto Floyd Patterson
Hector Camacho Harry Greb
Virgil Hill


Every single one of those bums are nothing but press generated hyped up second rate fighters...who if were residents of another country would never have been heard of ::**

Now thats a good one... ;D