Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Winky wuz robbed. I can't believe most are seeing this the other way. I didn't realize punches that get blocked count so much to you guys.
Hopkins is a dirty fighter and he can't be effective without doing so. It's evident in every fight he's involved in. Winky backed him down all night and blocked about 90% of hopkins shots while beind effectively aggresive and he still had this fight taken away from him.
Seriously......what does Wright have to do to win a decision against a top guy?
Are you saying Winky landed more than Hopkins? I remember Winky missing a hell of a lot of shots, more than I thought he would.
He definitely landed more than hopkins. It was clear as day but alot of those flurries that hopkins threw must have made people think something was landing.
It is like saying DLH beat floyd just cause he was throwing wild flurries at him and as nuch as I wanted to see floyd lose that night, I know he won. Just like I know Winky won last night.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
It was a horrible fight, thankfully their were 2 great undercards. When was the ref planning on taking points away for holding, because that's what was going on for 80% of the fight!! I mean please, I give Winky credit for stepping up but everytime he got close Hop hugged him. People say Hatton holds; well I saw more holding and headbutting from B-Hop last night than I have seen Hatton do his whole career. The ref should have had to make weight because he was busier than the other 2. More hype for a b.s. fight; and the ref needs to get fired as he was more interested in talking to the fighters than doing his job. The crowd wasn't booing just to hear themselves, that's for sure. Again, credit to Winky for trying, and he should have won the fight, especially if all those points that should have been taken away for holding would have been taken away.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Winky wuz robbed. I can't believe most are seeing this the other way. I didn't realize punches that get blocked count so much to you guys.
Hopkins is a dirty fighter and he can't be effective without doing so. It's evident in every fight he's involved in. Winky backed him down all night and blocked about 90% of hopkins shots while beind effectively aggresive and he still had this fight taken away from him.
Seriously......what does Wright have to do to win a decision against a top guy?
Are you saying Winky landed more than Hopkins? I remember Winky missing a hell of a lot of shots, more than I thought he would.
He definitely landed more than hopkins. It was clear as day but alot of those flurries that hopkins threw must have made people think something was landing.
It is like saying DLH beat floyd just cause he was throwing wild flurries at him and as nuch as I wanted to see floyd lose that night, I know he won. Just like I know Winky won last night.
Punchstat had Winky landing more total, Hopkins landing way more power shots. I agree most of those flurries were blocked. I had Winky ahead by one and losing most of the championship rounds.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
I think the head use just comes with hopkins' style tbh..
And although the holding was bad from Bernard early i feel the momentum shifted and it was in fact winky who was to blame for alot of holding in the latter rounds
Gotta agree there.
I had the fight 116-112. I thought it was a good fight.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
I had B-Hop winning it by 2 rounds
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
i actually had Hopkins up by one, and could have understood a draw...I don't think the fight was won by the margin they had it.
Hopkins was lucky he didnt get a point taken away, but by the score cards it looked like it wouldn't have mattered.
BTW I think Winky blocked a good majority of Hopkins' shots
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Winky wuz robbed. I can't believe most are seeing this the other way. I didn't realize punches that get blocked count so much to you guys.
Hopkins is a dirty fighter and he can't be effective without doing so. It's evident in every fight he's involved in. Winky backed him down all night and blocked about 90% of hopkins shots while beind effectively aggresive and he still had this fight taken away from him.
Seriously......what does Wright have to do to win a decision against a top guy?
i totally agree with u Bx, winky was robbed with that decision. winks a fool for fighting bhop and golden boy productions in vegas.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
Tell you what though..
When i saw that Harold Lederman had it a draw i knew there was no way Bernard was loosing that fight..
Harold was pretty harsh towards scoring bernard in the fight and if he managed to argue a draw i was confident..
Lol..On a diff note ive just realised something utterly silly..!!
Lol..Bx730ny!.. I always thought your name somehow spelt BEXONY!! Lol..Its just occured to me it means Bronx(Guessing thats your area code)New york..Lol.. ::** Shame on me :laugh:
Peace
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Cc Game
Thanks for the good reply..
Is more then i can say for those who have voted and not replied :-\ ::**
Peace
I voted Hopkins because the sopcast went offline an I read the winner off Fightnews. Hope this helps.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
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Originally Posted by Just a Boxing Fan
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Cc Game
Thanks for the good reply..
Is more then i can say for those who have voted and not replied :-\ ::**
Peace
I voted Hopkins because the sopcast went offline an I read the winner off Fightnews. Hope this helps.
Tell me about it bro..Sopcast was driving me crazy at like half 3 over here..
I was up till 6 in the morning messing around with streams and i finally found a chinese stream that just kept stopping and i was missing loads and not enjoying it so i caught it this morning
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
I had it 116-113 for B Hop, but many of those rounds could of gone the other way. Very tough fight to score, and I thought it was a bit dull with all the holding
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
I had Winky up 6-5 going into the final round, and he just looked totally gassed. Bhop took the 12th easily. I thought it could have gone either way really, but i scored it a draw. I saw the punch stats after the fight, and I don't see how they had BHop landing so many power shots. Do they count the rabbit punches during the clinch or something ??? I think these two could fight each other 50 times and all 50 times will look exactly like last night.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
I had Hopkins just ahead. A draw would not have surprised me though. The judges scores had me surprised though, it was much closer than that surely?
I don't think Wright showed all that bad.
Sure I had him losing by one or two rounds, and Hopkins' footspeed and footwork gave him far more problems than I thought they would. In Ronald's defense he made Bernard miss most of his punches(Hopkins' quick flurries were almost all blocked) He couldn't cover the distance to use his jab as well as he did against Trinidad and Taylor, but he did find that straight left a number of times against the tricky Executioner. I think that technically this fight was pretty even, but as always Bernard punching more gave him the nod. The problem I've always had with Winky's defense is its horrible for counter punching. I never thought Bernard would be able to counter Winky, but he did because Winky drops his hand after he throws the jab. Despite that I thought it was a great fight and I liked it more than WIlliams-Margarito which didn't have the same quality in skill.
Re: *Poll* Hopkins - Wright (Who you think Won the fight)
poor winky, i feel like he always get robed, i can a draw but i had winky wining 7 to 5, so i dont know what u want to call it but i think hopkins didnt desrve the win, i say if they fought at 160 winky wouldve taken him