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Ill mention Mosley and Mayweather. I think they both would have beat him at 147. just like, as you call him, "the mayweather of that era" Oscar de La hoya, beat Trinidad. Tito was a great fighter, but he never beat a great BOXER, except Whittaker who was badly washed up. Quartey would have also beat him at 147 for my money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puya
Tito would've crushed Quartey at 147, no contest. As for never having beaten a great boxer, I remember Oba Carr not only being undefeated, but being considered a very good boxer before he lost to Tito. And as usually happens, after he lost he just wasn't that good anymore. And Tito beat Reid too. Same story. Although I'm no Camacho fan, the only reason Tito didn't KO him was that Camacho got on his bicycle and barely escaped. So yeah, Tito has beaten a few good boxers in his time.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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As I have said only the great Welters would have beaten Tito, that does not include Moseley and Mayweather. Tito power was awesome and he would have been too strong for them.
Tito never beat a great boxer?????Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
In six (6) consecutive fights (starting with De La Hoya) he fought five (5) World Champions in three (3) different divisions, beating four (4) of them (lost to Hopkins) and one mandatory. Before that he has victories over Campas who was 56 - 0 - 50 KO (I may fail for 1 fight), Carr, Whitaker, among some others. Nothing bad for someone who had not fight anyone.
I never understood why people think Mosley would ever beat Tito. Even now after a guy like Forrest was able to hurt Mosley badly and dominate him. Mosley is very fast and has power which no doubt would give Tito trouble. But Mosley was never very solid defensively and he was never a great boxer. Mosley is and has always been a brawler. Just because he's fast does not make him a boxer. He would try to counter punch Tito and work his combos but would eventually try to bang with Tito and Tito would make him pay badly for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Maywether is a different story. He IS a boxer and has great defence. The only fighters that beat Tito were one's with great defence. Maywither would out box him throughout the fight, it would merely be a question of wether Maywether will be able to handle Tito's excelent pressure and make Tito respect his punch by taging him once and a while and could Tito do enough damage early enough to put Maywether on his bycicle and win the late rounds by aggresiveness and staying busy. We all know that Tito also had great stamina. It would be tough to call this one.
BTW... Trinidad - Cotto would be somewhat similar to Hearns - Duran IMHO
Tito would demolish Cotto, every time Cotto goes down to the bodt Tito catches him with the uppercut. Tito wins by TKO in the 10th after dominating the majority of the fight.
I didn't put boxer in capital letters to inform people that I was referring to anyone who had ever laced up the gloves and competed as a professional in the sport of boxing. I was referring to styles. He never beat a great, pure(or even close to it) boxer in their prime. He beat a few great fighters(one way past it), some great brawlers, sure. But the best boxers he beat were as Titofan stated. Oba Carr, who was very good but only very good by his own admission... David Reid, who had never even fought anyone besides Tito, though he obviously was supremely talented, and an old Camacho who had close fights with Duran's ghost.. Sure, Tito was a great fighter, (I don't know why Im needing to repeat myself) but he never beat another one. Let alone a great boxer, someone with great skills and experience using them. And just because the only people who ever beat Tito were ones with great defence, doesn't mean that those are the only kind of fighters who would have been capable of doing so.. Especially considering how badly he was taken to school by those 2 great defensive fighters he did fight. And Oscar doesn't have great defence, he beat Tito. So I don't really need to say any more. As far as Mosley losing to Forrest being some reason why he shouldn't have been able to beat Tito... Forrest was a very tall fighter with a great jab and straight right. Tito is 1 for 3 in those areas, and is missing the 2 that gave Mosley the most trouble. I don't see what your logic there is. You may as well have said Mosley couldn't have beaten Tito because he lost to Winky twice... Even though he did infinetly better against Wright than tito did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch
CC Tiofan,perfect points. I don't understand this myth that Trinidad never beat great boxers etc. I think Trinidad KTFO Cotto but this topic has been done before.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
With regards to Tito Mosley,Tito hits way harder than Forrest,is dangerous with every punch(he wobbled Vargas with a jab>!)and would be too much for Mosley. Shane has the edge in speed and with that,I mean more handspeed than footspeed. Shane can't fight well being backed up as evidenced by his losses and I think Tito would be able to do this all night long.
Well that was not the ONLY reason I gave for Tito beating Mosley. Oh and by the way, Tito is tall for 147, has a great right hand and a good effective jab so I don't really know what you are talking about here.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking