First time sparring(video)

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Originally Posted by the phenom

just to say , i would kick both ur assses just with a jab, and im not disrespecting u , lemme tell u y, he is wide open for straight punches and comes forwaard squared up, ur lettin him pressure u and run round the ring, stand ur ground and pop him with a few to make him stop, just pop the jab with mean intentions, and u , keep ur eyes up, chin down , hands up at all times, and im sorry i jus remeberd its ur first time so not bad u actully did alriet jus didnt want to delelte everythin i wrote lol, lemme ask u sumtin , how old are u and how long have u been boxing?

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I'm 18 and I've been boxing about 4 months or so.

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Originally Posted by David H

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Originally Posted by the phenom

just to say , i would kick both ur assses just with a jab, and im not disrespecting u , lemme tell u y, he is wide open for straight punches and comes forwaard squared up, ur lettin him pressure u and run round the ring, stand ur ground and pop him with a few to make him stop, just pop the jab with mean intentions, and u , keep ur eyes up, chin down , hands up at all times, and im sorry i jus remeberd its ur first time so not bad u actully did alriet jus didnt want to delelte everythin i wrote lol, lemme ask u sumtin , how old are u and how long have u been boxing?

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I'm 18 and I've been boxing about 4 months or so.

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than u did great, jus keep working hard buddy and remeber look up and have more pop on ur punches

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Originally Posted by the phenom

just to say , i would kick both ur assses just with a jab, and im not disrespecting u , lemme tell u y, he is wide open for straight punches and comes forwaard squared up, ur lettin him pressure u and run round the ring, stand ur ground and pop him with a few to make him stop, just pop the jab with mean intentions, and u , keep ur eyes up, chin down , hands up at all times, and im sorry i jus remeberd its ur first time so not bad u actully did alriet jus didnt want to delelte everythin i wrote lol, lemme ask u sumtin , how old are u and how long have u been boxing?

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just to say...i would probably kick your ass with just a jab, and im not disrespecting you. oh wait, you sorta back tracked, i just dont feel like going back and erasing what i wrote before.

dude, obvious beginner making the most common beginner mistakes that i guarantee you made too. ease up

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Originally Posted by spaceballwon

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Originally Posted by the phenom

just to say , i would kick both ur assses just with a jab, and im not disrespecting u , lemme tell u y, he is wide open for straight punches and comes forwaard squared up, ur lettin him pressure u and run round the ring, stand ur ground and pop him with a few to make him stop, just pop the jab with mean intentions, and u , keep ur eyes up, chin down , hands up at all times, and im sorry i jus remeberd its ur first time so not bad u actully did alriet jus didnt want to delelte everythin i wrote lol, lemme ask u sumtin , how old are u and how long have u been boxing?

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just to say...i would probably kick your a** with just a jab, and im not disrespecting you. oh wait, you sorta back tracked, i just dont feel like going back and erasing what i wrote before.

dude, obvious beginner making the most common beginner mistakes that i guarantee you made too. ease up

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yeah if u read my last post i did ease up, its just my gym got these punks that do stupid shit over and over and been boxing for years, i just didnt know i honestly did nt pay attention to the post and wen strait to watching the video and went to my critsizing like i do in my gym and felt like i should leave the critsizm no matter how harsh it sounded and decided to take note and tell him he did alrite for his first time and wen i relized how long he been boxing i figured he is doin great actually so be so kind and ease up on me, im really a nice guy, im not an asshole like i sounded lol ;D

Anyone else think Mr 7 years is a bit too heavy handed on a first timer or am I just a bit soft? I wouldn't be a tough session on someone a little more experienced but for your very first sparring session I'm thinking he's being a bit of an A**hole!

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Originally Posted by Sharla

Anyone else think Mr 7 years is a bit too heavy handed on a first timer or am I just a bit soft? I wouldn't be a tough session on someone a little more experienced but for your very first sparring session I'm thinking he's being a bit of an A**hole!

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yeah im wit u, alot of times wen my coach puts me in wit beginers whose its first or second time sparring i either just work defense or jus alowed to throw jabs, but mr 7 years isnt really good for sumone who sais hes been boxing seven years, david if u train hard ull beat this guy in 2 months or 3 months no problem

i dont really think its going to hard for one reason:
he doesnt fight like someone that has 7 years of skill training or exp. if he did, and he was swinging for the fences with the newbie, then yeah, i would say he was being a bit out of whack, but since he seems like a rather unpolished beginner himself, its hard to accuse him of going to hard.

any time a trainer asks me to work with someone who has never sparred before, i keep two things in mind: one, dont hit him on the chin, and two, let him land some shots if he is doing something right. since its a sport where you work from the ground up, its important that beginners trust their basics. if i see a kid working a jab dilligently, even though i'm constantly sniffing it out and in no danger of getting hit by it, i'll let him bounce a few off my head and give him a nod and a smile. or if a kid tries to work the body, which is rare for a first timer, i will cover my floating rib and liver and just let him crack my ribs a few times so he doesnt get discouraged and become a head hunter.

what i see here though, is two people who aren't really looking to exploit weakness or help each other out, just throwing punches really, and if someone has seven years of experience, then they should be beyond throwing punches, and the kid w/ 4 months of exp. will probably go past him soon enough.

I am always told not to deliberately overwhelm a beginner I spar with. Sure if I have to defend myself against big shots then I will but if they can't even look up and I keep the pressure on and I have 7 years experience (whether I'm good or not) then I know it's not a case of mutual benefit.

I think Mr 7 years wants to make sure Mr 4 months doesn't overtake him. It's a pride thing that's blinding him to the benefit he can get out of letting his sparring partner get a feel for what he's meant to be doing in there.

You don't have to be good to bully a beginner.

I guess I should give Mr 7 years the benefit of the doubt though since perhaps as you say spaceball he doesn't know any better. Maybe the same thing was done to him when he started?

That dude was definitely going too hard if that was your first time sparring.. with that said, if I were you, i'd rear back and throw a straight right to his nose, it's open ALL DAY.. You may take a punch or two but he will back up if you hit him without a doubt. For the record i, personally, wouldn't do that in a sparring session but this guy is clearly trying to overwhelm you, someone who is a beginner.

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Originally Posted by Sharla

I am always told not to deliberately overwhelm a beginner I spar with. Sure if I have to defend myself against big shots then I will but if they can't even look up and I keep the pressure on and I have 7 years experience (whether I'm good or not) then I know it's not a case of mutual benefit.

I think Mr 7 years wants to make sure Mr 4 months doesn't overtake him. It's a pride thing that's blinding him to the benefit he can get out of letting his sparring partner get a feel for what he's meant to be doing in there.

You don't have to be good to bully a beginner.

I guess I should give Mr 7 years the benefit of the doubt though since perhaps as you say spaceball he doesn't know any better. Maybe the same thing was done to him when he started?

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And the trainers dont know how to reprimand and control when its going on?

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Good job man! It takes guts getting into the ring. I like the way you keep moving, sort of like a Shane Mosley.. ;)

Just be careful and not put your head down so much...you might not see a hard hit coming...but you got heart...mad props 8)

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Sharla

I am always told not to deliberately overwhelm a beginner I spar with. Sure if I have to defend myself against big shots then I will but if they can't even look up and I keep the pressure on and I have 7 years experience (whether I'm good or not) then I know it's not a case of mutual benefit.

I think Mr 7 years wants to make sure Mr 4 months doesn't overtake him. It's a pride thing that's blinding him to the benefit he can get out of letting his sparring partner get a feel for what he's meant to be doing in there.

You don't have to be good to bully a beginner.

I guess I should give Mr 7 years the benefit of the doubt though since perhaps as you say spaceball he doesn't know any better. Maybe the same thing was done to him when he started?

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And the trainers dont know how to reprimand and control when its going on?

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Good Point. Were trainers there or were the people talking just other boxers?

At a boxing coaching clinic i went to (not that I'm coaching any time soon as I'd like a few more years more experience first just wanted to do the course for my own benefit) I met a coach who believed in doing everything the same way his coach taught him.

Thing was the stories he told were about toughing it out and getting injured in training and being thrown in the deep end a lot. Especially since he planned to teach kids and had already accidentally broken a student's elbow in sparring (an adult's thankfully) I'm not sure that's the best approach.

OK he loves and respects his original trainer but surely you can respect the person who gave you your start in the sport without emulating absolutely everything they did?

Just to clear a few things up...There was several trainers there, and the guy I was sparring was told a few times to calm down and take it easy...I don't think you can hear it on the video. But I think what he was doing was more because he didn't know what he was doing, rather than him being an asshole.

I don't really want to spar him again. I'm not scared or anything, I just feel like I would learn more against more experienced guys that would let me work instead of trying to kick my ass.

You're a very understanding guy CC David. You'll probably enjoy sparring him in a few months but I can see why he's not the greatest sparring partner just initially. I kinda doubt he'd be likely to tone it down if he doesn't when the coaches are telling him to now either.

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Originally Posted by the phenom

just to say , i would kick both ur assses just with a jab, and im not disrespecting u , lemme tell u y, he is wide open for straight punches and comes forwaard squared up, ur lettin him pressure u and run round the ring, stand ur ground and pop him with a few to make him stop, just pop the jab with mean intentions, and u , keep ur eyes up, chin down , hands up at all times, and im sorry i jus remeberd its ur first time so not bad u actully did alriet jus didnt want to delelte everythin i wrote lol, lemme ask u sumtin , how old are u and how long have u been boxing?

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Did not need to be said.. The board is for help not to put people down or attempt to brag..

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