Am I the only1 who thinks this is a bit cruel or am I missing the point?
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Am I the only1 who thinks this is a bit cruel or am I missing the point?
yea your not alone ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Just watched the whole thing and I got to say what a bunch of cruel cunts people who are involved in dog fighting are.
I have seen some bad things while in the army and in my present job with the fire service but never have I witnessed such blatant cruelty.The cunts dont even have a good excuse for it.
Totally agree mate, its sick, and the electricution because the dog refused to fight what a sad state of affairs i love dogs i have a 2 year old rotty who is as soft as they come, it was just sad to see great animals like dogs being treated like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
I agree that a lot of the things in this video are cruel, but I can't help but think that if the dogs had a choice they would rather fight than be executed by the humane society. Electrocution/Gun Shot/Lethal Injection they all lead to the same place. Unfortunately, a game bred dog will most likely never socialize with other animals. They've been bred to fight for years just like a retriever has been bred to retrieve. It's a sad fact, but there is no such thing as making those dogs fight it's in their genetic makeup. They would do it on their own.
No actually your wrong, even those urban mix pitbulls do not fight without humans training them. They do not fight as puppies, they are trained by humans to fight. If you look up pure breed American Pitbull Terriers they are just like any other dogs loyal and filled with excitement. If you look up American Sraffordshire Terriers, they are gentle giants and if ever fight they will have a heart attack. Those dogs called pitbulls are corrupted dogs, lean and mean. They do not come out of the litter aggressive and brutal. Humans train them to battle. Dogs instict is to be in a pack and to follow a leader, unfortunetly for these dogs their leader is a cruel asshole. Dogs are very obedient, any kind of dog will fight to the death it just happens that this pitbull looking kinds of dogs are the best at fighting thats why they are presented as monster dogs. But truth is they are victims of cruelty manipulated and corrupted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joerod
how do you download or convert it into windows media player so I can download it onto my phone?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
No, actually your wrong. Those "urban mixed pitbulls" are not game bred animals. These are dogs that genetically originated from the "pitbull", but were not selectively bred along the way. An amstaff is a totally different breed of dog, and shouldn't be compared to a "pitbull". A game bred dog has a bloodline that's hundreds of years old selectively bred along the way for fighting. The dogs are loyal and non-human aggressive in most cases. In most cases these dogs can literally be taken off of their owner's property by a complete stranger. The reason they are so loyal towards humans and their owner's are due to the fact that when they are in the "pit" they are in very close proximity to humans, therefore human aggressive dogs were eliminated from the bloodline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Do the puppies come out of a litter aggressive? Yes, and No some litters must be separated by the time they are 8 weeks of age. This has nothing to do with the owner, and everything to do with the fact that their genetically instilled animal aggression and predatory instics are already prevalent. In some cases they won't show aggression towards other animals until they are much older or maybe never in some cases, but that is a slim minority. You are completely wrong in your assumption that any dog will fight to the death. There is only one breed of dog that will do this and it is due to the fact that they are bred for it. What makes you think it is such an impossible feat to breed a dog that is naturally aggressive towards animals? Humans domesticated dogs and look at the thousands of different breeds the original wild dog evolved into. With that said, how can you honestly contend the fact that a bloodhound who hunts down game, etc. does not have any special trait instilled in it by selective breeding. At the same time insinuating any other type of dog can do the same? That is completely false.
Dogs have been on the short end of the stick for hundreds of years and it's very sad, but it's not just pitbulls. How do you think all of these different breeds came along? They were selectively bred in order to posses a desired trait (IE. heightened smell, size, color etc) Do you know what happened to the dogs that didn't conform to the standard? They were culled, meaning eliminated from the bloodline. All those dogs in shows you see on TV with the little poodles running around had at one time gone through this process. Now most of the show breeders cull by spaying or neutering the "non-worthy" dogs and giving them away or selling them at discounted prices.
The moral of the story here is there is only one true "pitbull"! Blue dogs(taken from the pitbull and bred for color and size), Am Staffs, big headed giant gang banger dogs are not "pitbulls". The latter of which greatly contributed to the horrible perception of these amazing animals. If you are doing a report on the "pitbull" I suggest you do more research and represent the animal as what it was intended to be, and what it has become. Look how docile the animals were that were being taken from one of the dogfighters' house. These are supposed to be the most menacing dogs on the face of the planet and they were wagging their tails and licking the guy.
Times have changed and this animal and the people who keep it true to form are no longer accepted in our society,(as of the 1976 Animal Welfare Act) but these animals were at one time respected and admired for what they were bred for. If your writing a paper don't take the easy road. If you truly admire the breed and want to help them put the truth out there. A "pitbull" was and is bred for fighting as seen in the video, but dogfighting, and the attacks on humans are two totally different subjects committed by two different breeds in my opinion. I don't condone dogfighting, but I respect the history of the breed, and it is very sad to me that these dogs are perceived to be savage beasts, when in fact the fighting dogs are the exact opposite. >:mad
wtf ! ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Joerod
You asked about the breed and I gave you my insight on them. Sorry if it offends you, or you think I'm crazy, but there are too many misconceptions about these dogs. I CC'd you yesterday, but here's and SC right back at ya! ;)
ahahahaa ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Think than idea needed a little more thought a smash ;D
hahaha yeah not a good idea at all ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like you need to learn how to control your dog or not take him out if he tears another one to shreds. Its called socializing. It is not difficult to do, but it is responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
If somebodys dog ever attacked my dog like that then I would have the mind to give them and their dog a good fucking up.
What happens if it was a toddler that ran over to your dog? You'd be getting a nasty fine, jail time, and your dog would be put down without a seconds hesitation.
Its the owners responsibility and yet you are trying to blame that woman and her dog for your dog tearing it up???