Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Rican
Hey Wacky, Judah was fast as fwock too and arguably, none come faster than "Super." I think Mosley will suffer the same fate as Judah-TKO'd!
Judah was putting on a clinic until Cotto unleashed a flurry of low blows and elbows, and I think that Mosley is a lot better that Judah.
A CLINIC? are you serious?
here is what clinic means in sports terminology: a performance so thoroughly superior by a team, player or fighter as to be a virtual model or demonstration of excellence; rout or mismatch.
A clinic is what we saw Mayweather do to Corrales. RJJ gave to many of his fighters.Those are boxing clinics. No way in hell by winning maybe a round or two am I going to call it a clinic. A clinic of what? Of how to take an a** beating? Cuz that is probably the only clinic we saw.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
I'm going for Mosley, just depends how much he's got left. Should be a cracking fight. I kind of want Cotto to win a close fight where Mosley shows glimpses of his old self, though Mosley's one of my favourites he won't be around for much longer while Cotto's the future, so I don't want him ruined before he gets a chance to fight some of the Welters around at the mo.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
Boy do we have an amazing autumn and winter of boxing ahead of us...and this is going to be an absolute cracker as we get ready for xmas.
I like Cotto's body shots, but then again Mosley has been a great for so long so I'm not totally sure either way, but at the moment I'm probably leaning towards Cotto to really cement his p4p place with a pts win.
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This has got to be boxing's best year!! They have put on a massive amount of great fights or great match-ups. Boxing is coming back! I love it. Don King is fading and Golden Boy Prom. & Top Rank are giving us fans what we deserve!!
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
I would say Cotto by late TKO
remember guys although Shane is still great he is not the same old Shane that you think about when you hear his name. he has not looked amazing or spectacular in his fight against Collazo and he didnt even look that good against a washed up Vargas. Although no doubt he will bring it in this fight Cotto's pressure and his consistency in every round will end up being too much for and old Shane.
Just watch and see.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Rican
Hey Wacky, Judah was fast as fwock too and arguably, none come faster than "Super." I think Mosley will suffer the same fate as Judah-TKO'd!
Judah was putting on a clinic until Cotto unleashed a flurry of low blows and elbows, and I think that Mosley is a lot better that Judah.
Sorry, but what fucking fight did you watch?
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
shane by ud for me all the way, he is still fast with his hands and feat, he is a big welter and one of the best boxers in the world still.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
This is pretty much a pickem fight for me but I'm gonna go with the young lion over the old tiger. This is going to be a great fight with back and forth action all the way. I see Shane giving in a little in the championship rounds and Cotto finishing strong for a close UD.
BTW, I can't believe that there is only one vote for Mosley by KO. This is to me the second most likely result, Mosley can bang with the best.
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
This is pretty much a pickem fight for me but I'm gonna go with the young lion over the old tiger. This is going to be a great fight with back and forth action all the way. I see Shane giving in a little in the championship rounds and Cotto finishing strong for a close UD.
BTW, I can't believe that there is only one vote for Mosley by KO. This is to me the second most likely result, Mosley can bang with the best.
I cannot believe it either. People say Shane didn't look great against Collazo...first off Collazo is one of those fighters that is hard for anyone to look good against....and Shane still beat him handily. As far as Vargas...sure...he isn't prime anymore....but he was the considerably bigger man against Shane and he is still tough as hell. Shane was able to put him on his ass with a vicious punch in their second fight. Cotto doesn't have a great chin or great defense...so what will happen when he gets caught with a massive Mosely punch? Remember, even though Shane isn't the knockout artist he was at lower weights...at welterweight he still can pack a huge punch to go along with his great speed. Speed almost always conquers power. You add power with speed...as well as experience and a great chin...i just see Shane having too much.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
Mosley beats Cotto. Will be one of the hardest fights he has tackled though.
Re: Cotto vs Mosley @ the Garden in November...
I think Mosley's power might be a bit overrated. Its all right but he's not that big of a puncher at 147, I mean who was the last guy he knocked out at 147 or 54 except for a shot to absolute pieces Vargas? I had to check boxrec, its been about 6 or 7 years, KO'd Adrian Stone. I mean that's a bit misleading because he's fought guys like Winky and ODLH but I honestly haven't seen that much power even when he was fighting guys like David Estrada, Cruz, or even Collazo although Collazo's a better fighter than those two. I think he's still a good body puncher though and its not like he doesn't hit hard with head shots but I don't think of him as a massive puncher by any means. And I think Cotto's chin is a little underrated.
But having said all that, I'm still kinda leaning Mosley because of the hand speed, toughness, and even though I don't think he's a huge puncher, he's not feather fisted. Great fight though, can't see how it wouldn't be anything but a great fight.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I think Mosley's power might be a bit overrated. Its all right but he's not that big of a puncher at 147, I mean who was the last guy he knocked out at 147 or 54 except for a shot to absolute pieces Vargas? I had to check boxrec, its been about 6 or 7 years, KO'd Adrian Stone. I mean that's a bit misleading because he's fought guys like Winky and ODLH but I honestly haven't seen that much power even when he was fighting guys like David Estrada, Cruz, or even Collazo although Collazo's a better fighter than those two. I think he's still a good body puncher though and its not like he doesn't hit hard with head shots but I don't think of him as a massive puncher by any means. And I think Cotto's chin is a little underrated.
But having said all that, I'm still kinda leaning Mosley because of the hand speed, toughness, and even though I don't think he's a huge puncher, he's not feather fisted. Great fight though, can't see how it wouldn't be anything but a great fight.
Here's a man who knows his shit.P4P poster. Mosley is a very very good fighter but he was best at the lighter weights. He has been good at 147 and 154,not amazing but if you read some of these posts,you'd think he was some kind of power puching machine. Sure Cotto has been wobbled but he shows heart and I don't see any difference here.
The only thing I disagree with you about Ouma is the outcome,the more I think about it,the more I'm sure Cotto is going to win.His stamina was his biggest weakness at 140,he has been a wrecking ball at 147. He was averaging 70 plus punches per round v Judah and I don't think Shane can live with that speed. Cotto's jab and southpaw stance(when he switches) will help him alot too and his body shots will be too much for Shane who although has good wins over Vargas and Collazo,neither compare to Miguel.
I'm open for SIG bets for this fight. ;D Need to redeem myself!
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Honestly I think a lot of people are overratting Cotto's abilities & skills.
Don't get me wrong...I love Cotto & I would be one of the people who are overratting Cotto's abilities & skills...but this is Mosley were'e talkin about.
He aint built to buckle like a belt or get pressed like some cheap set of slacks...Mosley is a toe to toe slugger & generally outworks everyone that he faces if they are either near his size or just below it.
Cotto will have the fight of his life against Mosley. There were several scares against Judah, & IWO, Mosley is much more accurate & just as fast.
Someone stated that Judah was the fastest...I totally disagree.
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i think cottos chin could cost him this fight. if he can take mosleys good shots then he could beat him by tko or decision but i don't think that will happen. i think mosley will win a decision or by tko