Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.
I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.
It's a sad situation all around I think.
What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.
As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.
Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.
Whose with me?
Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a shit country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor fucking run away kids who ditched a shit life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...
They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the fuck out and stop costing me so much!
Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame) coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy cunt in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...
I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his fucking self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.
I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.
It's a sad situation all around I think.
What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.
As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.
Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.
Whose with me?
Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a S*** country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor F****** run away kids who ditched a S*** life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...
They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the F*** out and stop costing me so much!
Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame)
coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy c*** in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...
I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his F****** self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...
thats the thing\preme
Ppl here think they too fucking good to shovel shit and serve burgers
immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family
it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking bastard who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
;D
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I must admit I kind of feel sorry for these people. I know it's a drain on our economy and that we need to be stopping it but at the end of the day most of these people come from piss poor shitty backwards countries and they just want the chance of a better life for themselves and their familes.
I try and think what I would do if I was to have been born in Albania or Iraq for example. Personally I think I'd be wanting to get to a land of milk and honey at all costs.
It's a sad situation all around I think.
What would be best is if we could operate an exchange programme, say swap our Ian Huntley's and Myra Hindleys for poor destitute people from other countries.
As most third world countries have the death penalty it wouldn't be a problem. They would pay no upkeep for our worst criminal scum, and in fact could make some money by selling tickets for the public stonings.
Plus our countries would win as well as it's surely cheaper to give benefits to an Afghan or a Estonian than it is to keep Huntley in a isolated protected cell.
Whose with me?
Sorry but lifes a bitch - thye may be born into a S*** country but take a look around, look at all the tramps (bums for you yanks:P) the poor F****** run away kids who ditched a S*** life here and ended up on the streets and stay there...
They only way i will ever accept immigration is when it will benefit the country - when unemployment is at an all time low, and key jobs need filling and there are not enough people with that skill to do it, then let them in the country and give something back... otherwise get the F*** out and stop costing me so much!
Don't get me wrong, i got no real probs with people eloping etc... yanks coming here, brits going there, auis coming here to serve me in bars (;D) we cancell eachother out, thats all cool culture has to mix... but when i got a bunch of people (who mostly i don;t blame)
coming here taking jobs that some leeching lazy c*** in the local job centre thinking he so good for it and my taxes going to pay his way... it's bullshit... they aint needed here...
I mean it pisses me off the "lack of doctors" so all these idians and what not are coming here and i mean ffs i go into hospital i want to get seen but someone who is able to tell me whats wrong with me without me haing to ask him to rapest his F****** self 10 times.. sort it out, bring out a scheme to get more brits into the job if there are a shortage, make um sign to stay and work her eon the NHS for ex years since it costs so little to get the quals...
thats the thing\preme
Ppl here think they too F****** good to shovel S*** and serve burgers
immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family
it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking B****** who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
;D
dunno why they don't round them up and ship them off to some third world country tbh - no fucker would notice or care - they only thing they are good for is 'bum fights' but some prick banned that too! they finaly start to make a living (even if it meant getting the shit beat out of them for a cuppa tea) and they stop it the fucking hypocrisy
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by katfight
thats the thing\preme
Ppl here think they too fucking good to shovel shit and serve burgers
immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family
it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking bastard who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
;D
The market has a way of fixing problems like that.....it's called supply and demand.
Economics 101
Pay attention Kat...you see when something is demanded by the people the companies find a way to supply it.
If there is a high demand and a short supply then the cost goes up
If there is a large supply and a small demand the cost is small.
So let the trash build up in England and the US and let people go without McDonald's for a few months and either the economy will adapt or the jobs will get better pay.
It's the circle of the money....I think Disneyland has a ride dedicated to that
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
WHat ever happened to the schools lessons to ignore it when somebody calls you a bad name. Way to go soceity for negatively reinforcing what you tryed to prevent. :appl:
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by katfight
thats the thing\preme
Ppl here think they too F****** good to shovel S*** and serve burgers
immigrants dont care they do these jobs!!
that dont make it thier fault that they are willin to do owt to support thier family
it not thier fault either that some skanky trampy drug taking B****** who was born here with scruffy kids dont wanna work
;D
The market has a way of fixing problems like that.....it's called supply and demand.
Economics 101
Pay attention Kat...you see when something is demanded by the people the companies find a way to supply it.
If there is a high demand and a short supply then the cost goes up
If there is a large supply and a small demand the cost is small.
So let the trash build up in England and the US and let people go without McDonald's for a few months and either the economy will adapt or the jobs will get better pay.
It's the circle of the money....I think Disneyland has a ride dedicated to that
dont tell me to pay attention like that LYLE!!
i dont see your name on my birth certificate besides father: :lickish: :lickish: ;)
listen i cant argue that we shouldnt have immigrants at all in this country
we have the Royals ffs :P
and plus my kids are mixed race and im Irish :-\
but my kids dad does have a gr8 job he educates ''naughty kids''
also i can tell u now for a fact these immigrants who have been here yrs and yrs were BROUGHT over from the war time wen a lot of the English men had gone off to war
wen they arrived they picked a passport out of a bucket and that was now officialy them
we give out stuff here for free so evry ones gonna try get a piece legally or illegally
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
The day is quickly approaching when the global economy in place collapses. I fear that the dollar will go before anything else. Just like the barter system had its limits, so to does the money/credit system. Instead of being able to instantly upgrade anything, we have to phase it in due to economic impact. I have no idea how you one up the money/credit economic system but it needs to be done and preferably sooner than later.
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
Kat, the way to make even ILLEGALS pay into the tax system is to have a national sales tax and that will also make doing business in the US or Europe or whoever has it CHEAP. But the best thing is it's revenue nuetral which means we'd collect the same amount of taxes just without Income Tax and so on.
This way Social Security and schools and any government programs that Illegals use will be paid for by illegals as long as they actually buy stuff here which I can't see how they would get around that.
I am just surprised that some people actually FEEL GUILTY about Illegal Immigration.....it's insane! They basically STEAL from all the people who do the right thing by paying their taxes.
The Asian market will fold up like a lawn chair and then China will come looking for it's money from the US and well the shit will hit the fan so to speak.
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Steelie
Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.
....I'm talking of a 26% sales tax and abolishing all other forms of taxation. It's called The Fair Tax
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
we already have too many fuckig taxes do u no how much it costs for petrol over here?? :o :o :o
but i get what ur sayin but 26% and aboloshing other taxes here wouldnt amount to the same amount of moni it wud be less than we already pay now!!!
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Steelie
Lyle we already have a sales tax, it's called VAT (Value added tax) and is levied at 17.5%.
....I'm talking of a 26% sales tax and abolishing all other forms of taxation. It's called The Fair Tax
Lyle taxes such as these are called 'regressive'. That is because poor people pay substantially more of a % of their income for items than the rich. this isn't a new concept.
I favor progressive taxes, such as tiered income taxes. Many people think that the extraordinarily wealthy should have more of a burden than the poor, esp. since this wealth is almost always built by exploiting workers, government subsidies, and inheritance.
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my ass!
RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?
....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my a**!
RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?
....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes
been watching batman by any chance??? :lickish:
Re: Red Letter Date for America: We deported an Illegal Immigrant!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
it's a CONSUMPTION tax .....regressive my a**!
RIDDLE ME THIS WHO BUYS MORE THINGS RICH PEOPLE OR POOR PEOPLE?
....whoever buys more PAYS MORE TAXES....and things that are more expensive cost more money because you pay more taxes
Of course rich people buy more things........however, percentage wise poor people spend much more than rich people. I.e. they live paycheck to paycheck. So yes it is regressive. I think your cut and dried simplistic agenda is getting in the way of real debate here.
