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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
Don't think Mosley will spark him out but i think he will knockdown Cotto at some point and stop him late on.
Re: Mosley arrives in Puerto Rico!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto is very hard puncher i think Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
Don't think Mosley will spark him out but i think he will knockdown Cotto at some point and stop him late on.
Alright thats as far as offense. But to beat Cotto you have to have a little bit of defense, Mosley hasn't shown defense recently, thats a problem. What do you think?
Re: Mosley arrives in Puerto Rico!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto is very hard puncher i think Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
I see Cotto jabing alot as he keeps Mosley's speed limitted early. Very cautiously. If Mosley doesn't take adavtage early in the fight, he will struggle to figure out Cotto's style of fight. Just because they brawl and Mosley has a better chin doesn't mean he'll prevail! Mosley will show signs of fatigue and frustration late in the fight as Cotto gets stronger and stronger. This is Cotto's life waiting chance at superstardum. He'll be in the best shape ever. I don't see Cotto being hurt throughout the fight! He will be focused.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto is very hard puncher i think Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
Don't think Mosley will spark him out but i think he will knockdown Cotto at some point and stop him late on.
Alright thats as far as offense. But to beat Cotto you have to have a little bit of defense, Mosley hasn't shown defense recently, thats a problem. What do you think?
I totally agree with on this Mosley hasn't shown any recently but Cotto hasn't exactly got a good defence either Mosley will have to keep circling Cotto and use his athletism and keep them hands up even though Mosley is old don't let that fool you he still is much faster than Cotto i think Mosley should try and catch Cotto cold like Judah did and Judah did have alot of success early so Mosley should get some respect from Cotto early keep circling Cotto so Cotto can't sit down on his punches and Mosley needs to work his jab and do some combos to the body and head and stick and move and for Mosley's sake i hope he keeps them elbows tucked in.
Re: Mosley arrives in Puerto Rico!
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Originally Posted by Eli_jr24
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto is very hard puncher i think Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
I see Cotto jabing alot as he keeps Mosley's speed limitted early. Very cautiously. If Mosley doesn't take adavtage early in the fight, he will struggle to figure out Cotto's style of fight. Just because they brawl and Mosley has a better chin doesn't mean he'll prevail! Mosley will show signs of fatigue and frustration late in the fight as Cotto gets stronger and stronger. This is Cotto's life waiting chance at superstardum. He'll be in the best shape ever. I don't see Cotto being hurt throughout the fight! He will be focused.
don't see Cotto being hurt
He has been hurt by alot lesser fighters what makes you think Mosley can't hurt him ??
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This fight will be like the one with Judah except Mosley will not wilt under Cotto's constant pressure. Unless Cotto has addressed those defensive issues he is going to taste a LOT of leather and Mosley is going to be there all night long. And Cotto is going to hit low a couple times. Mosley is going to be the real winner but it will be a controversial decision loss in favor of Cotto.
Re: Mosley arrives in Puerto Rico!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Eli_jr24
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Mosley's past his prime. He should give Cotto a few hard moments but Cotto's going to beat him. Only way Shane wins is if he does something no one else has done and thats test the gut of Cotto.
Cotto has suspect chin he has been hurt by alot lesser fighters than Mosley it doesn't matter if Mosley is bit past his prime he still has the speed the power and the chin.
Call me an old head but I liked it better when SHane Mosley would go to the body 10 our of 12 rounds(if it lasted that long)
People are gonna test Cotto's chin he's already been down his chin's already been tested and what happened when it was tested? He got up and won.
Just because he can be put down doesn't mean he can be sparked out.
So if the chin is weak but he's already shown to get through it then test another body part like the body, that way if you DO put him down late he'll have less stamina too.
See where i"m getting at?
I know what your saying bro but i still think Cotto has suspect chin i see feather fisted Paul Malignaggi rock Cotto i think Cotto is classic case of having weakish chin with big heart i would like Mosley to test his body i think Mosley will go to body Cotto is very hard puncher i think Cotto will close the distance in about 4 rounds and then we will start to see a brawl question is has Mosley got it in him for another war ?? by the interviews it seems that way he seems very up for the fight.
I see Cotto jabing alot as he keeps Mosley's speed limitted early. Very cautiously. If Mosley doesn't take adavtage early in the fight, he will struggle to figure out Cotto's style of fight. Just because they brawl and Mosley has a better chin doesn't mean he'll prevail! Mosley will show signs of fatigue and frustration late in the fight as Cotto gets stronger and stronger. This is Cotto's life waiting chance at superstardum. He'll be in the best shape ever. I don't see Cotto being hurt throughout the fight! He will be focused.
don't see Cotto being hurt
He has been hurt by alot lesser fighters what makes you think Mosley can't hurt him ??
I never said that he can't...I'm saying that he won't. Just because he's been hurt against lesser fighters doesn't mean he is automatically going to be hurt by a Mosley punch. He was hurt because he underestimated his opponents and got caught off guard plus most of them were in 140(A weigh in which he struggled to make). Judah rocked him but never hurt him. Cotto says it himself. He knows that he is going into the ring with someone who could hurt him. He will be focused and prepared.
Re: Mosley arrives in Puerto Rico!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im fan of both fighters equally but Mosley will win he has the speed and power to ko Cotto i know Cotto can bang but he gets hit too much and his defence as some bad flaws that i think Mosley will take advantage of so Mosley by tko late or decision win.
Can't wait for this fight i think this will be fight of the year.
Where have I heard before that one of Cotto's opponents had too much speed and power? OH, when Cotto got it on with Judah. Cotto handled Judah's speed very well, though Judah was able to land some flush shots that did not hurt Cotto whatsoever. Now, Mosley is better than Judah, but only stronger and not faster. I say the fight goes the same way like the Judah fight, but Mosley will be able to come out with out getting KO'd.
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Im fan of both fighters equally but Mosley will win he has the speed and power to ko Cotto i know Cotto can bang but he gets hit too much and his defence as some bad flaws that i think Mosley will take advantage of so Mosley by tko late or decision win.
Can't wait for this fight i think this will be fight of the year.
Where have I heard before that one of Cotto's opponents had too much speed and power? OH, when Cotto got it on with Judah. Cotto handled Judah's speed very well, though Judah was able to land some flush shots that did not hurt Cotto whatsoever. Now, Mosley is better than Judah, but only stronger and not faster. I say the fight goes the same way like the Judah fight, but Mosley will be able to come out with out getting KO'd.
You may of heard it before but Mosley is alot better than Judah and this fight will not be anything like Cotto vs Judah fight Judah stopped throwing punches and broke down mentally like he always does when the pressure is on.
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Well Mosley's best punch is, I think, the overhand right. Cotto should be able to avoid this if he keeps his hands up and chin tucked like he usually does. Every time Cotto gets caught it is with an uppercut. He is very vulnerable to this punch. If Mosley goes to the body consitantly and then brings that uppercut to the head, Cotto will be in big trouble.
If that does not happen I see Cotto wearing him down on his way to a close decision. Cotto's strong jab will be a factor again and his body punching is seccond to none. If Mosley expects to win he needs to be ready and willing to take a beating in the process. Is he still willing to do this, especially in this point in his career? He was very tentative against Forrest once he got hurt and that was at his prime...
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Im fan of both fighters equally but Mosley will win he has the speed and power to ko Cotto i know Cotto can bang but he gets hit too much and his defence as some bad flaws that i think Mosley will take advantage of so Mosley by tko late or decision win.
Can't wait for this fight i think this will be fight of the year.
Where have I heard before that one of Cotto's opponents had too much speed and power? OH, when Cotto got it on with Judah. Cotto handled Judah's speed very well, though Judah was able to land some flush shots that did not hurt Cotto whatsoever. Now, Mosley is better than Judah, but only stronger and not faster. I say the fight goes the same way like the Judah fight, but Mosley will be able to come out with out getting KO'd.
You may of heard it before but Mosley is alot better than Judah and this fight will not be anything like Cotto vs Judah fight Judah stopped throwing punches and broke down mentally like he always does when the pressure is on.
ICB you got a good point, but please don't down play Cotto's win against Judah. Judah did real good in that fight and at no time did I get the impression he had broken down mentally. Did it ever occur to you that maybe he stopped throwing punches because he was getting hurt.
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Well Mosley's best punch is, I think, the overhand right. Cotto should be able to avoid this if he keeps his hands up and chin tucked like he usually does. Every time Cotto gets caught it is with an uppercut. He is very vulnerable to this punch. If Mosley goes to the body consitantly and then brings that uppercut to the head, Cotto will be in big trouble.
If that does not happen I see Cotto wearing him down on his way to a close decision. Cotto's strong jab will be a factor again and his body punching is seccond to none. If Mosley expects to win he needs to be ready and willing to take a beating in the process. Is he still willing to do this, especially in this point in his career? He was very tentative against Forrest once he got hurt and that was at his prime...
Very well put. I think you're the first person who talks about Cotto and his jab other than me. I've said it since the fight was signed that Cotto will use his jab alot early in the fight and will then frustrate Mosley when he then begins to attack late in the fight. Everyone says he has no weaknesess but fail to see that he has no solution to a consistent jab nor has a solution when he is struggling to land a punch.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Im fan of both fighters equally but Mosley will win he has the speed and power to ko Cotto i know Cotto can bang but he gets hit too much and his defence as some bad flaws that i think Mosley will take advantage of so Mosley by tko late or decision win.
Can't wait for this fight i think this will be fight of the year.
Where have I heard before that one of Cotto's opponents had too much speed and power? OH, when Cotto got it on with Judah. Cotto handled Judah's speed very well, though Judah was able to land some flush shots that did not hurt Cotto whatsoever. Now, Mosley is better than Judah, but only stronger and not faster. I say the fight goes the same way like the Judah fight, but Mosley will be able to come out with out getting KO'd.
You may of heard it before but Mosley is alot better than Judah and this fight will not be anything like Cotto vs Judah fight Judah stopped throwing punches and broke down mentally like he always does when the pressure is on.
ICB you got a good point, but please don't down play Cotto's win against Judah. Judah did real good in that fight and at no time did I get the impression he had broken down mentally. Did it ever occur to you that maybe he stopped throwing punches because he was getting hurt.
Im not trying to downplay it as Cotto fan myself i was pleased Cotto won and was very impressed with both fighters but facts are facts Judah broke down like he always does when he is hurt or pressure is on and stopped throwing punches and threw little amount and couldn't keep Cotto off him Mosley would not do this.
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The problem i have is that i think people are giving Cotto too much credit/props for his win against Judah. Don't get me wrong...Cotto is a great fighter with a big heart. But defeating Zab doesn't make him a world beater. Zab is mentally one of the weakest fighters in the sport. He has never been able to rise up on the big stage and his breakdown is almost programmed to happen in each fight. Yet despite all that...he still had one of his best showing against Cotto until he finally flamed out. Mosley is a completely different beast than Zab. He is obviously a tremendous and highly skilled athlete...but more than that...he is a great tremendous competitor. THIS is the fight that will prove what Cotto is made of and can handle. It will be by far his toughest fight. But I just don't see Cotto doing anything better than Shane...skill, speed, chin, power, etc. The only advantage Cotto has is his age. So unless Shane grows old in this fight...i see him winning.
By the way...the whole Cotto using his jab to win and frustrate is a bit ridiculous to me. Shane had major problems against Winky and Forrest. Those two fighters had great range and where technically great fighters. Cotto's length and jab aren't great enough to be the deciding factor.
