Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I don't see why some people are disagreeing there is no one with similar style of Pacquiao but this is still a good sparring partner who is southpaw and can bang yes he doesn't have Pac's speed or headmovement but there isn't really anyone else so this is good choice for Barrera camp.
I agree ICB. This is kindof like Oscar trying to find a sparring partner to fight Floyd.....you are never going to find someone EXACTLY like them, but the help you out alot, they don't have to be. Edwin is a very good fighter, although flawed. His flaws will not prevent Barrerra from gettting use of him.
BBUUUTT...
The only way that Valero gets Barrerra a Win is if Barrerra and Valero are both allowed to fight Pac at the same time..
Good one ;D
I might get a public mockery on this :-\, but eventhough Jimrex Jaca has soft chin and doesn't punch like a ton of bricks, I think he can simulate Pac's style better than Valero.
Valero doesn’t have any tactical skills, he's just a f*cking stalker.
Valero doesn’t experience to be hit by numerous hard punches.
Valero doesn’t experience to be hit in the liver, which pac oftenly defended.
Valero has lack of experience on fighting counter punchers.
Valero never faced any elite fighters. Even semi-elite Vicente Mosquera knocked him down.
Valero doesn’t have experience to be cut, while fighting full 12 rounds.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
eric use valero as a sparring partner too. I don't know what some of you guys are talking about, this is the best possible sparring partner mab can get. Valero will make mab work, but ultimately mab will get the best of him.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
eric use valero as a sparring partner too. I don't know what some of you guys are talking about, this is the best possible sparring partner mab can get. Valero will make mab work, but ultimately mab will get the best of him.
Were they sparmates on whole Pac-EM trilogy, or just on a certain Pac-EM bout? Just curious.
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Watching the fights of Valero is like watching Pacquaio when he was still fighting in Blow by Blow (a boxing tv show in the Philippines). Pacquaio was raw then and so is Valero now. But to be honest, Valero is starting to ripen. He has the clumsy style of Pacman and sometimes his speed is beginning to be like the Pacman's.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
eric use valero as a sparring partner too. I don't know what some of you guys are talking about, this is the best possible sparring partner mab can get. Valero will make mab work, but ultimately mab will get the best of him.
i guess that didnt work for eric after all. eric looked slower against pac during pac-em 2 and 3. a boxer cant expect to fight a fast fighter and expect to win after sparring exclusively with a slow slugger.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
Morales used Valero ALOT during their first fight...we all saw the results. :D
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
El Gamo,
With due respect, it was not that convincing win for Erik. Erik demanded that Manny use gloves that will not hurt him.Clearly, it was against fair play.Plus, Manny was fighting with a bad cut from a headbutt.
Erik was fighting a Pacman with one eye and no hands during that fight.
An honest opinion.SCs are not allowed.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
did he have the wrong socks as well or am I thinking of another fight? :-X
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
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Originally Posted by Missy
did he have the wrong socks as well or am I thinking of another fight? :-X
Wrong fight,he was getting tested for blood for this one and didn't have enough blood to fight. :-X :D And the wrong socks led to blisters ;D ;D ;)
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Ah, that explains it, thanks El Gamo.
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
good for both fighters
still i think e hit harder than pac
Re: Valero to train with Barrera!
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Originally Posted by brucelee
El Gamo,
With due respect, it was not that convincing win for Erik. Erik demanded that Manny use gloves that will not hurt him.Clearly, it was against fair play.Plus, Manny was fighting with a bad cut from a headbutt.
Erik was fighting a Pacman with one eye and no hands during that fight.
An honest opinion.SCs are not allowed.
Agreed. Erik fought the one-fisted, one eye Pac. And Pac was right with the gloves issues.