Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by Master
Not everone can fight like Mayweather, his style is his own and exceptional. If boxers could do what he could do, hit without being hit, they would all do it. But give me a boxer who can punch anyday eg Trinidad, Hearns and Roy Jones.
True. Not everyone also has granite chins. Not everyone also has punching power.hehehe.
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's
Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.
Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.
Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's
Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.
Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.
Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez
"The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him."
This was the last statement in my post. You have your opinion and I have mine. Many people feel the way you do and many people feel the way I do. It's what makes mayweather such a good topic to debate.
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
The fight wasn't competitve or exciting because Mayweather was THAT good. Why fight when u can simply outthink, out manouever and out box an opponent. You dont get paid more for KO's
Not that this is aimed only at you but it is something that has crossed my mind lately. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that anyone could learn to fight like floyd. Would it be a great thing for boxing if everyone fought like him? IMO, no. It would make boxing very dull. He is considered boring for a reason. The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him.
Well i don't consider him boring you are stating your opinion as a fact which it isn't i could name 10 Mayweather fights that are exciting.
Mayweather vs Ndou
Mayweather vs Sosa
Mayweather vs Gatti
Mayweather vs Corrales
Mayweather vs Burton
Mayweather vs Chavez
Mayweather vs Judah
Mayweather vs Corely
Mayweather vs Castillo
Mayweather vs Manfredy
Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez
"The only thing interesting about watching him fight is the people fighting him."
This was the last statement in my post. You have your opinion and I have mine. Many people feel the way you do and many people feel the way I do. It's what makes mayweather such a good topic to debate.
Which of those fights that were mentioned do you consider boring?
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I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.
Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:
He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.
He primarily backs up.
He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.
I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.
N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.
I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.
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Originally Posted by slk123
I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.
Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:
He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.
He primarily backs up.
He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.
I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.
N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.
I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.
Give me your opinion on the following Hatton fights.
Hatton-Michael Stewart
Hatton-Ray Oliveira
Hatton-Carlos Vilches
Hatton-Juan Urango
Hatton-Carlos Maussa
Hatton-Dennis Pedersen
Hatton-Joe Hutchinson
Hatton-Vince Phillips
Hatton-Aldo Rios
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Hey, i see u guys point of view, definitely. But as im gettin older i jus seem to appreciate more of the skill involved in the sport. Sometimes its good to weatch Boxing to see Boxing, rather than Drama, Violence n hype
I kind of felt the same way for a while when I was getting older as well. Not just about boxing, but about life in general, that it is the simple things to be appreciated.
But then I got even older and realized that nothing can beat violence and hype. Scissors beat papar, paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, violence and hype beat ALL. ;)
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Hatton-Michael Stewart: Cool Fight, Hatton real Quick.
Hatton-Ray Oliveira: Ray way past his prime being molested by the Hitman.
Hatton-Carlos Vilches: Not great, clearly Some dogfood for the Manchester Rotweiller.
Hatton-Juan Urango: Decent display, entertaining.
Hatton-Carlos Maussa: Sat ringside, never expierienced such an exciting atmosphere.
Hatton-Dennis Pedersen: Fair Cool. Ricky was a wrecking ball!
Hatton-Joe Hutchinson: Lil Joe Got owned.
Hatton-Vince Phillips: Same as Ray Olivera. Actually a very good fight.
Hatton-Aldo Rios: Now this one shouldnt have happened, a lightweight bein raped by a LW methinks.
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
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Originally Posted by slk123
I find mayweather's performances boring on every one of his fights. That's not to say he doesn't move or throw punches or get KO/TKOs from time to time.
Main reasons for not appreciating mayweather:
He is predominately a counter-puncher which = you create openings and I'll be glad to fill them.
He primarily backs up.
He primarily is only offensive when the other fighter is no longer in a position to be a threat usually due to exhaustion from chasing him or that were safe from the beginning due to their fighting style or age.
I find him mostly boring for never truly stepping up and taking on anyone who would be a real stretch for him, save one. This is the vane in which I will answer each of the fights proposed to me.
N'dou - props for floyd in taking on a taller fighter who is a power puncher. One directional fighter. This guy had no defense, was way too easy to hit and had to be set to punch.
Sosa - Slow and one directional. Up until this fight, his record reflected one other well known fighter and that was a loss. Shouldn't have even been in the ring.
Gatti - This fight should have never taken place. Gatti was shot already.
Corrales - see N'dou. RIP Chico
Burton (Augustus) - No power, record not worthy. Souldn't have been in the ring.
Chavez - Level of previous competition was aweful. One directional and too short.
Judah - Mentally weak, previously proven how easily he could be rocked.
Corley - No power, whole list of nobodys on his record except when he stepped up in class and lost.
Castillo - One directional, easily hit but, the only fight that I thought was going to be difficult for him. And it was, the first time anyway.
Manfredy - Slow, one directional and easy to hit.
Hernandez - Terrible class of fighters up until this fight. KO record padded by competition. Never should have been in the ring.
I enjoy(ed) a lot of the fighters in this list. I mean no disrespect towards them, I was merely listing why they made easy fights for floyd.
All you have done is slate the opposition you still haven't told me why these fights were boring.
Genaro Hernandez had never been beating at Superfeatherweight and had beat guys like Azumah Nelson and his only loss was to Oscar Delahoya for you to say he shouldn't of been in the ring is a complete joke and shows you don't know anything about him.
I would bother with the others but i don't think i'll bother because your just slating his opposition no matter what tell me how many boxer's at the moment who have achieved as much as Mayweather and have beaten as many quality opposition as Mayweather ??
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Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.
But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.
But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about
good observation. considering that our critic here have watched many of Mayweather's fights, then I choose letter a as the probable reason why he says Mayweather's fights are boring.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.
But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about
Maybe what was ment was ...only thing interesting is watching his opponent (and waiting To see If/when floyd will get KTFO ?)I don't know, It's like when you know a fighter is SO skilled & More Talented Than Who He's Facing that the consensus is "The Opponent" needs a KO to win.With Guys like Maywither,jones jr.,etc some just look For that from the opening bell?Who Knows.
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i cant throw hundreds in pools, im just lucky enough to have some
Re: Floyd Mayweather - Muppet Alert
"All you have done is slate the opposition you still haven't told me why these fights were boring."
Yes I did, re-read the beginning of my post. The fighters were challengers and not challenges.
Genaro Hernandez had never been beating at Superfeatherweight and had beat guys like Azumah Nelson and his only loss was to Oscar Delahoya for you to say he shouldn't of been in the ring is a complete joke and shows you don't know anything about him.
OR, I was talking about Carlos Hernandez. Consider this:
1997 Genero vs Carlos - Genero wins
1998 Genero vs mayweather - mayweather wins. Genero retires after this fight and a 14yr career. Too old? Past his prime? Only loss was to ODHL, Azuma Nelson retired the year after the Genero fight and a stunning 19 year career. Way to go Genero.
2001 Mayweather takes on Carlos, WTF.
I would bother with the others but i don't think i'll bother because your just slating his opposition no matter what tell me how many boxer's at the moment who have achieved as much as Mayweather and have beaten as many quality opposition as Mayweather ??"
We could debate the rest of his resume let alone the rest of the fights on the list but we both have our minds made up.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Saying that Mayweather on the whole is not an exciting fighter is fine.... we all have different opinions on fighters and we're entitled to our opinions.
But saying that every one of his fights is boring, and that the only thing interesting is watching his opponent.... that shows that either:
a. you're just criticizing Mayweather across the board to prove a point
or
b. you haven't watched many Mayweather fights and don't really know what you're talking about
Maybe what was ment was ...only thing interesting is watching his opponent (and waiting To see If/when floyd will get KTFO ?)I don't know, It's like when you know a fighter is SO skilled & More Talented Than Who He's Facing that the consensus is "The Opponent" needs a KO to win.With Guys like Maywither,jones jr.,etc some just look For that from the opening bell?Who Knows.
You have a greater grasp of my opinion than anyone else.
