Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
Oh come on Sven Ottke clearly deserved all his wins..... ::**
Ottke would of whipped Calzaghe's a**
So would Humpty Dumpty in your mind.
Heh heh heh. :appl:
Glorious.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
Oh come on Sven Ottke clearly deserved all his wins..... ::**
Ottke would of whipped Calzaghe's ass
So would Humpty Dumpty in your mind.
If I know Calzaghe he'll wait till Humpty Dumpty was shot before facing him
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
Oh come on Sven Ottke clearly deserved all his wins..... ::**
Ottke would of whipped Calzaghe's a**
So would Humpty Dumpty in your mind.
If I know Calzaghe he'll wait till Humpty Dumpty was shot before facing him
Or Humpty Dumpty would have to move up from junior middle.....
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Settle down ?? read my posts im not Calzaghe fan at all infact im the one that criticizes him.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Settle down ?? read my posts im not Calzaghe fan at all infact im the one that criticizes him.
Ok i sincerely apologise for giving u Calzaghe fanboy status. Bad by me. Have a cc.
If u have criticized him are u as sick of me at being attacked by ten Calzaghe fans everytime u do? I sure am.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Settle down ?? read my posts im not Calzaghe fan at all infact im the one that criticizes him.
Ok i sincerely apologise for giving u Calzaghe fanboy status. Bad by me. Have a cc.
If u have criticized him are u as sick of me at being attacked by ten Calzaghe fans everytime u do? I sure am.
No prob cc back.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Settle down ?? read my posts im not Calzaghe fan at all infact im the one that criticizes him.
Ok i sincerely apologise for giving u Calzaghe fanboy status. Bad by me. Have a cc.
If u have criticized him are u as sick of me at being attacked by ten Calzaghe fans everytime u do? I sure am.
I hear you Calcrappy groupies get on my nerves as well.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do shit for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's ass on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
You thought the rematch was a robbery? I thought beyer boxed greens ears off. Green caught him in round 12 and knocked him down but couldnt finish him. I thought green lost that fight.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
No way would Ottke beat Calzaghe Ottke was decent fighter but had more gift decisions than all of us have had hot dinners fighters like Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, all of these were gift decisions hell even a green 10-0 Anthony Mundine was ahead in there fight until Ottke found the ko punch.
Its ok settle down..... I know no one on here is allowed to crtiticise Joe in the slightest or his fanboys go off....
Funny how this topic bout Green and Tarver turned into a debate about Ottke and Joe.....
Settle down ?? read my posts im not Calzaghe fan at all infact im the one that criticizes him.
Ok i sincerely apologise for giving u Calzaghe fanboy status. Bad by me. Have a cc.
If u have criticized him are u as sick of me at being attacked by ten Calzaghe fans everytime u do? I sure am.
Same, calzaghe became a god after lacy.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by Snakey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
You thought the rematch was a robbery? I thought beyer boxed greens ears off. Green caught him in round 12 and knocked him down but couldnt finish him. I thought green lost that fight.
Green lost badly and only woke up in the final round when it was all to late! :coolclick:
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by Snakey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
You thought the rematch was a robbery? I thought beyer boxed greens ears off. Green caught him in round 12 and knocked him down but couldnt finish him. I thought green lost that fight.
Green lost badly and only woke up in the final round when it was all to late! :coolclick:
I'll have to watch it again then...because honestly...I thought he took the boot on that one.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by Snakey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
His record pretty much confirms what I'm saying. He's never knocked out a name opponent. Just a bunch of bums and journeymen.
While Green's opposition is a bit limited he might actually have a shot against the current Tarver...but I doubt it. I'll be curious enough to tune in...& that's saying something because Tarver don't do S*** for me.
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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Green is to predictable in the ring and Tarver will outbox him for the 12 rounds, Green to me always seems wooden or stilted in his movements. He simply couldn't keep pace with Mundine and how he didn't finish Beyer off in their first fight is beyond me. Good luck to him though.
:coolclick: 100% agreed about Green being a bit predictable.
As far as Mundine goes...while I can not stand the man...the current state of Mundine is improving & he'd be a bit of a handful for everyone at 160lbs to 168lbs other than Kess & Calzaghe.
As far as Beyer goes...Beyer wasn't the walk through that Kessler faced (not diminishing Kess's battery of Beyer) when Green got to him & also...both of those fights were in Germany. Not sure if you saw them but Green put Beyer down in rounds one & two & then lost a point for an accidental headbutt during round two. Shortly after Green actually intentionally butts Beyer who had been clingin on in survival mode & the ring physician calls the headbutt & rules in Beyer's favor.
The rematch was just robbery as it was fairly close with Beyer's a** on the mat in the 11th or 12th...I can't recall which one...that was one of the fights that I was so disgusted with that I just dropped it offa the hard drive.
I aint sidin for Green & I sure aint a fan...but quite often to beat a German fighter on home turf you gotta stop the fwock.
Sorry to German boxing fans...but it's a rule of thumb.
You thought the rematch was a robbery? I thought beyer boxed greens ears off. Green caught him in round 12 and knocked him down but couldnt finish him. I thought green lost that fight.
Green lost badly and only woke up in the final round when it was all to late! :coolclick:
I'll have to watch it again then...because honestly...I thought he took the boot on that one.
The point should be that if Green had used his head..... or not used his head ..... in the first fight there wouldnt have been need for a rematch cos Beyer would have been destroyed...... But yeah the second fight was close but Beyer always had it.
Re: Green picking an upset against Tarver
I think Green can do it, judging by Tarver's performance vs Muriqi it wouldn't be much of an upset in my eyes!
