Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Personally i dont see it with berto hes average
I have to agree with you,although he's better than average,I just don't see it. Nice jab,patient,good body shots but I just think the elite at 147 are a level above. BTW,he'll most likely be fighting Quintana who won on the Pavlik undercard,in an untelevised bout. That's what I've heard.
i think quintana could beat him
Great war last night.I nthink we have seen Berto at all he will be.awesome force andtwo handed fistic furry but not versitile and I think That will be his Down fall If he gets in with Grade A fighter.Against a speed Power guy,he'd follow them around and IMO get thumped.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
If hes going to fight for a title then Cintron is probibly the best option having said that in a few more fights i think he could give Cotto a run for his money as Cotto hasnt got the greatest defense in the world but he is a f**kin animal and would probibly rip Bertos head off if he got careless. Williams is too big and would keep him at bay with the jab all night long and Mayweather is too slick and would catch him everytime he drops his hands when he backs up.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
I'd like to see him in with Margarito. I know he's not a champ anymore but it would be a great test for both and a good measure of where they both are at this point in their respective careers.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
I think that would be a very dangerous fight for Berto. Margarito is a BIG welter it would be intriguing but i doubt it will happen due to the risk/reward factor epecially when Cintron is available and has a belt
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
Berto is not ready to fight a beltholder yet. Rivera and Estrada are his two best opponents, and while they're competent professional fighters, they're just stepping stone opponents.
Berto's next step is to fight a fringe Top 10-15 guy. Urkal, Bonsu, Quintana, Alfonso Gomez, someone like that.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
I see good things for Berto give him some years and he may be at the top of the welters one day
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Personally i dont see it with berto hes average
I'm not really seeing anything special either. I mean come on; Estrada is a two-legged punching bag. Tough as steel, but so sloppy as to be pitiful. I think Berto could get busier than he is. I would like to see him get put in with Margarito. Seems like Tony is going to get put in the gate-keeper spot, so Berto needs to run into him.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
To me ,I cannot see Berto carrying alot of pounds in the future and being effective .He'll be welter for awhile In a stacked division which means a high probability for tough fights :)
Margarito vs. Berto would be good and both are the types to invite grade A competition.I think Margarito would kill him with that "hookercut" and do damage as berto Is offensive dynamo but all to willing to soak up damage.imo he should avoid Long power types.He'll be explosive as usual and Makes fans easily
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
remeber he still a prospect give him time and i think if he uses his speed he could beat magarito but he needs some more time still a work in progress legoin you can hold me to this i think he will be  top welter some time in next couple of years just wait and see my friend wait and see
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
Margarito would wreck Berto. Too big,too strong. If Rivera can have him on queer street with an uppercut,Margarito would KO him with one. Berto v Quintana should be next.
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he is still up and comer i mean when margarito started he lost to not very good people Gamo and i meant maybe in a year or two he might be able to beat margarito he only has 20 fights
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
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he is still up and comer i mean when margarito started he lost to not very good people Gamo and i meant maybe in a year or two he might be able to beat margarito he only has 20 fights
Margarito had few amateur fights,hence his losses early in his career v established pros. And when he turned pro,he was 16/17 years old. Much like Humberto Soto,his boxing training/education had not been complete.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
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Originally Posted by Mr140
he is still up and comer i mean when margarito started he lost to not very good people Gamo and i meant maybe in a year or two he might be able to beat margarito he only has 20 fights
Ok,So were conceding the Impending loss with Berto??
His all out style will not provide him 2 years,He will have to take step up and If its Margarito,he 'll get folded up.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
I read over on espn.com that Carlos Quintana is the guy being looked at a future opponent for Berto.
Re: Berto looked good...but which Welterweight Champ would you put him in with?
give berto soem more fights and he will be ready margarito the guy you mention would be a great test