Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Evander Holyfield
Lightheavyweight = Floyd Patterson
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
To be fair handspeed Floyd Patterson was arguably faster than Ali
apart from that your not to fair of Buddy
I just changed my list i put Patterson as Cruiserweight and Spinks at Lightheavyweight.
You nailed it with Willie Pep and Floyd Pattersdon. But I would change middle weight to Harry Greb. But you list is pretty stellar. CC at you
For some Reason Greb seems To Generate alot of Discord...He would love that.IMO,(these days thats the prime requesite) Greb was a very quick fisted fighter.
I read a funny quote one time ???BUT I did actually SEE it ;)
...."When the first round started I thought somebody had opened up the ceiling and dumped a carload of boxing gloves on me"....
Pat Walsh
I can't find any footage of Greb at all so i can't put fighters up i haven't seen.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Evander Holyfield
Lightheavyweight = Floyd Patterson
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
To be fair handspeed Floyd Patterson was arguably faster than Ali
apart from that your not to fair of Buddy
I just changed my list i put Patterson as Cruiserweight and Spinks at Lightheavyweight.
You nailed it with Willie Pep and Floyd Pattersdon. But I would change middle weight to Harry Greb. But you list is pretty stellar. CC at you
For some Reason Greb seems To Generate alot of Discord...He would love that.IMO,(these days thats the prime requesite) Greb was a very quick fisted fighter.
I read a funny quote one time ???BUT I did actually SEE it ;)
...."When the first round started I thought somebody had opened up the ceiling and dumped a carload of boxing gloves on me"....
Pat Walsh
I can't find any footage of Greb at all so i can't put fighters up i haven't seen.
I can Respect Your Stance.and I know we went this before so I wont Use the Jesus anology.LOL,Good list chief ..... ;D
But Greb Was the MAN!!
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Floyd Patterson
Lightheavyweight = Michael Spinks
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
Rafael Marquez isn't all that fast. Also Roy Jones Jr. was faster at middleweight than Robinson.
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Ali's speed was astonishing. The fact that he possessed such speed and quickness for a heavyweight is a testament to his incredible athleticism.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
You may not like this but imo Tyson punched faster than Ali.
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Hector "Macho" Camacho was lighting fast in his time too.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Floyd Patterson
Lightheavyweight = Michael Spinks
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
Rafael Marquez isn't all that fast. Also Roy Jones Jr. was faster at middleweight than Robinson.
I don't want to put the same boxer in 2 weightclasses.
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The list is not that far off. But I must agree on some them. Here is my list and a short synopsis why:
Heavyweight - Ali. No Real competition. One could argue Patterson or Tyson. But Michael Dokes in his prime rivaled even Ali in terms of pure hand speed.
Lightheavy - Roy Jones. Hands down!
Super Middle - Roy Jones. Not only the fastest in this divison, but the fastest of ANY divison!
Middleweight - Roy Jones. How could there be any other. Robinson, Hearns? Not close.
Jr. Middleweight - This is a tough one. Leonard, Hearns, Norris. I'll take Hearns, who I think was a tad faster than Leonard at this weight.
Welterweight - Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, or Mosley? In terms of pure speed of hands I'll take Leonard by a nose over Robinson.
Jr. Welterweight - Medrick Taylor. Rivals Jones as the fastest of ALL Time.
Lightweight - There are so many; Mosley, Howard Davis Jr., Hector Camacho, Medrick Taylor, Floyd Mayweather. I really think Howard Davis Jr. was the fastest in terms of pure hand speed, he just could not punch worth nothing. Therefore I think Sugar Shane edges him slight because of his powerful combos generated from his speed.
Jr. Lightweight - Hector Camacho. As a super featherweight, Camacho was simply a blur. He was much faster than Mayweather at this weight.
Featherweight - The PacMan gets the nod.
The rest is hard because they are so small. THE FASTEST OF ALL TIME IS ROY JONES JR!!!! and I'm not a RRJ hugger either.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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if your talking handspeed id have to put tommy hearns in there somewhere, maybe junior welter? itd be close with him and meldrick tho so no real argument.
Since Tommy Hearns never really campaign as a junior welterweight as a pro I think you would have to consider the junior middleweight version of him as possibly his fastest. When he took out Duran, it was like a tornado landed in front of Roberto.
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Tommy had a devastatingly perfect ratio of power : speed. Thats why he got Ko's like the KO v Duran. It was also the reason that he was less lacerating in later rounds. He still had power, but when he got tired his punches just weren't as buzzsaw like.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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The list is not that far off. But I must agree on some them. Here is my list and a short synopsis why:
Heavyweight - Ali. No Real competition. One could argue Patterson or Tyson. But Michael Dokes in his prime rivaled even Ali in terms of pure hand speed.
Lightheavy - Roy Jones. Hands down!
Super Middle - Roy Jones. Not only the fastest in this divison, but the fastest of ANY divison!
Middleweight - Roy Jones. How could there be any other. Robinson, Hearns? Not close.
Jr. Middleweight - This is a tough one. Leonard, Hearns, Norris. I'll take Hearns, who I think was a tad faster than Leonard at this weight.
Welterweight - Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, or Mosley? In terms of pure speed of hands I'll take Leonard by a nose over Robinson.
Jr. Welterweight - Medrick Taylor. Rivals Jones as the fastest of ALL Time.
Lightweight - There are so many; Mosley, Howard Davis Jr., Hector Camacho, Medrick Taylor, Floyd Mayweather. I really think Howard Davis Jr. was the fastest in terms of pure hand speed, he just could not punch worth nothing. Therefore I think Sugar Shane edges him slight because of his powerful combos generated from his speed.
Jr. Lightweight - Hector Camacho. As a super featherweight, Camacho was simply a blur. He was much faster than Mayweather at this weight.
Featherweight - The PacMan gets the nod.
The rest is hard because they are so small. THE FASTEST OF ALL TIME IS ROY JONES JR!!!! and I'm not a RRJ hugger either.
I didn't want to put Jones in all different weightclasses i wanted to have separate boxers.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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if your talking handspeed id have to put tommy hearns in there somewhere, maybe junior welter? itd be close with him and meldrick tho so no real argument.
Since Tommy Hearns never really campaign as a junior welterweight as a pro I think you would have to consider the junior middleweight version of him as possibly his fastest. When he took out Duran, it was like a tornado landed in front of Roberto.
Norris was very quick at Lightmiddleweight watch his fight with Meldrick Taylor.
Terry Norris vs Meldrick Taylor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi9BaSjcl9o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H2M_XPtF6Q
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Evander Holyfield
Lightheavyweight = Floyd Patterson
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
To be fair handspeed Floyd Patterson was arguably faster than Ali
apart from that your not to fair of Buddy
Watch the first Patterson vs. Ali fight ,and Ali has a lot quicker hands.
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if your talking handspeed id have to put tommy hearns in there somewhere, maybe junior welter? itd be close with him and meldrick tho so no real argument.
He was a shade slower than Leonard, Robinson, Mayweather, Jones Jr., etc. He was very fast, but not quite.
Re: Fastest Boxer's In History
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight = Evander Holyfield
Lightheavyweight = Floyd Patterson
SuperMiddleweight = Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight = Sugar Ray Robinson
Lightmiddleweight = Terry Norris
Welterweight = Sugar Ray Leonard
Jr Welterweight = Meldrick Taylor
Lightweight = Shane Mosley
Superfeathweight = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Featherweight = Willie Pep
Superbantamweight = Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight = Rafael Marquez
Im struggling here so i'll just leave it at that for now and try and do rest later.
To be fair handspeed Floyd Patterson was arguably faster than Ali
apart from that your not to fair of Buddy
I just changed my list i put Patterson as Cruiserweight and Spinks at Lightheavyweight.
HEHE weight wise yes but technically he did not fight there :) its a bit like saying Marciano was the hardest hitting Cruiser :) well you see my point ICEMAN but we will let it go :)
actually Tyson would have been the hardest cruiserweight puncher... or Shavers ;)
