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Oscar de la Hoya did not take a dive against Bernard Hopkins.
I'm not even a De la Hoya fan, but anyone who thinks he would take a dive must have not paid much attention to Oscar's career.
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Michael Gomez v Peter McDonagh
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Bruce Seldon v. Mike Tyson. I never saw someone so happy to lose a title.
Maybe Clifford Etienne v. Mike Tyson but he got smacked with a HUGE shot.
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Bruce Seldon v. Mike Tyson. I never saw someone so happy to lose a title.
Maybe Clifford Etienne v. Mike Tyson but he got smacked with a HUGE shot.
I agree with Etienne v Tyson.
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A lot of people thought Spinks took a dive against Tyson. I don't! If you looked at his eyes he was outta there
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Bruce Seldon v. Mike Tyson. I never saw someone so happy to lose a title.
Maybe Clifford Etienne v. Mike Tyson but he got smacked with a HUGE shot.
I agree with Etienne v Tyson.
Maybe Etienne had planned to take a dive but Tyson detonating one on his chin saved him the theatrics.
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Augustus vs. Vedder
I agree with that one, maybe Liston - Ali, but FNF ran a piece about it that sought to prove it was more a case of inept reffing than a dive.
I see a program on Liston vs Ali and they had this program to show you exactly where Ali's punch landed and it was nothing more than a grazing blow on the cheek.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but Liston could've gone down due to his balance, I haven't seen it in a while so I don't exactly remember. Didn't Liston get up ready to fight though - until the ref (Joe Walcott wasn't it?) stopped it after someone ringside (the owner of Ring Mag or something?) told him Liston didn't beat the count?
Yes sir that is exactly what happened. Walcott couldn't get Ali to a corner and lost control over the fight and by the time the Ring editor hollered that he had been down more than 10 seconds, Liston had gotten up and was ready to fight (at least he acted like it). Have a CC
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Bruce Seldon v. Mike Tyson. I never saw someone so happy to lose a title.
Maybe Clifford Etienne v. Mike Tyson but he got smacked with a HUGE shot.
I agree with Seldon one because Tyson missed a shot Seldon went down and got up and made out he was wobbling when a punch hadn't even landed.
I don't agree with Clifford one though Tyson hit him with a huge shot.
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i dunno mayorga and odlh raise a eyebrow to me
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De la Hoya against Hopkins
Bull,if youve ever taken that type of body shot youd know why
Every nerve clenches up on a shot like that,and all air leaves you
Oh and on Liston/Ali,by the second fight the big bad bear was terrified of Ali,so who knows
Ali sure as heck wasnt done though,we have the print of him standing over him screaming "Get up and fight" in the gymn
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mayorga, not necessary a dive but allowed himself to get pummeled prolly a deal between him and don king with tito and oscar ;)
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I'd say Augustus against Kid Diamond. I swear Augsusts actually walked into some fukin punches in that fight. He is better than that and could have beaten Diamond had he tried.
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Bruce Seldon v. Mike Tyson. I never saw someone so happy to lose a title.
Maybe Clifford Etienne v. Mike Tyson but he got smacked with a HUGE shot.
I agree with Seldon one because Tyson missed a shot Seldon went down and got up and made out he was wobbling when a punch hadn't even landed.
I don't agree with Clifford one though Tyson hit him with a huge shot.
Tyson and Ettiene were friends before the fight and Etienne was in need of money. Tyson was in need of a good win. If you listen to the post fight interview with Tyson the whole thing sounded suspicious. Also I wouldnt past either guy. Tyson is Tyson and Etienne is a guy who would do anything for money and his boxing career came next to his criminal career (which he obviously wasnt that good at).
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Augustus vs. Vedder
I agree with that one, maybe Liston - Ali, but FNF ran a piece about it that sought to prove it was more a case of inept reffing than a dive.
I see a program on Liston vs Ali and they had this program to show you exactly where Ali's punch landed and it was nothing more than a grazing blow on the cheek.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but Liston could've gone down due to his balance, I haven't seen it in a while so I don't exactly remember. Didn't Liston get up ready to fight though - until the ref (Joe Walcott wasn't it?) stopped it after someone ringside (the owner of Ring Mag or something?) told him Liston didn't beat the count?
Yes sir that is exactly what happened. Walcott couldn't get Ali to a corner and lost control over the fight and by the time the Ring editor hollered that he had been down more than 10 seconds, Liston had gotten up and was ready to fight (at least he acted like it). Have a CC
CC back, I thought I was remembering that correctly. What a gong show.
And as much as I dislike ODH, he doesn't strike as the type of guy to take a dive... Its not like he needed the money.
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This will get up some people's noses but i am still amazed at Duran's 'NO MAS', he is only behind by 1 and 2 points at the time he quits. What gives? I just find it strange that a fighter quits when not hurt and according to the judges is close.