Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Its a lackluster division. Guys like Povetkin, Arreola, and Chambers could take advantage of the state of the division and hopefully they do. I have high hopes for Povetkin in particular so hopefully he an pass his biggest test in Byrd. Plus by boy Guillermo Jones in the division now so hopefully well hear more from him.
:coolclick: on the Povetkin vs Byrd hopes...I got 'em too.
I've really been wanting David "Nino" Rodriguez to step up. He's an up & comer that's been knocking out the majority of his competition in the first round. He's fought like 26 people & has knocked out all in the first round but five or six & I think he beat them in 2 or 3 rounds...problem is...he aint faced anyone worthy to my knowledge.
Probably another Victor Oganov then........
He's smokin' some asses too?
Don't know that I've seen or heard of that one.
Rodriguez does seem like good people...but the fact that he's only gone 4 rounds in all of his fights does'nt make him a shoe in for me as a hopeful. I'd like for him to do something though...anything close to a challenge.
You didn't see Oganov on Shobox last month? He came from Russia promoted by Gary Shaw with a record of 28-0 with 28 ko's or therabouts, 100% KO ratio anyway.
He fought that Zuniga guy who Pavlik knocked out a while back in what was supposed to be his big break fight.
Trouble is he didn't actually know how to box and ended up getting KTFO in the 8th round :-\
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've got big hopes for Odlanier Solis. He'll be a force in a couple years no doubt.
Maybe we could see a rematch between him and Haye for a world title in a few years........
He was great in the amateurs, but I saw his last 2 fights and wasnt too immpressed. He seems to still have an amateurish style and can be sloppy at times. Still he has started fighting good fighters since his debut so i guess hes not going to look amazing cause he didnt take time to get some experience as a pro against light opposition so hopefully he will adapt quick againt good fighters. He does have good potential though.
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by LEGION
Actually your screen name says it all about the heavies for me personally. LOL :lolhaha: ZZZ :cwm33: No offense intended towards you man, and welcome to the board. Have your 1st CC on me ;D
Lol nice joke and yea i m totally fine with it. Its indeed lolzzz in the division now, yesterday i watched a video clip of james toney and he was saying its better to be in the heavyweight division than the lighter ones because he does not need to watch his weight and can eat hamburgers and hotdogs anytime without worries..
Currently i hope to see the fight between oleg maskaev and samuel peter, however like what some of u guys already said, some fighters just try to avoid the fights and i think thats what maskaev is doing now. :o
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Its a lackluster division. Guys like Povetkin, Arreola, and Chambers could take advantage of the state of the division and hopefully they do. I have high hopes for Povetkin in particular so hopefully he an pass his biggest test in Byrd. Plus by boy Guillermo Jones in the division now so hopefully well hear more from him.
:coolclick: on the Povetkin vs Byrd hopes...I got 'em too.
I've really been wanting David "Nino" Rodriguez to step up. He's an up & comer that's been knocking out the majority of his competition in the first round. He's fought like 26 people & has knocked out all in the first round but five or six & I think he beat them in 2 or 3 rounds...problem is...he aint faced anyone worthy to my knowledge.
Probably another Victor Oganov then........
He's smokin' some asses too?
Don't know that I've seen or heard of that one.
Rodriguez does seem like good people...but the fact that he's only gone 4 rounds in all of his fights does'nt make him a shoe in for me as a hopeful. I'd like for him to do something though...anything close to a challenge.
You didn't see Oganov on Shobox last month? He came from Russia promoted by Gary Shaw with a record of 28-0 with 28 ko's or therabouts, 100% KO ratio anyway.
He fought that Zuniga guy who Pavlik knocked out a while back in what was supposed to be his big break fight.
Trouble is he didn't actually know how to box and ended up getting KTFO in the 8th round :-\
Totally missed that one. He got sparked by Zuniga inside of 8? Youch. ;D
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
Man after Peter did so shitty and how bullshit those scorecards are I really hope he gets a fight with Wlad. So Wlad can send his slow ass packing. First bullshit Don King scorecards against Toney I and the he has to get some points out of his ass to beat McCline. Peter is the new Jermain Taylor of the HW division.
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by Padilla
The heavyweight division is Wlad. Period.
I'm still holding out hope that one day Lennox comes back and takes on Wlad. :-\
No please no. if Lennox comes out of retirement to fight wlad he would be risking serious injury hes just too old. I think hes got too much sense for that anyway I just wish Evander did!
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by Padilla
The heavyweight division is Wlad. Period.
I'm still holding out hope that one day Lennox comes back and takes on Wlad. :-\
No please no. if Lennox comes out of retirement to fight wlad he would be risking serious injury hes just too old. I think hes got too much sense for that anyway I just wish Evander did!
Evander Holyfield was never that good anyways. The guy has 9 losses!
Holyfield was a great cruiserweight, but honestly.................................
Who gives a shit about cruiserweights??
Not Me!
Hail Sultan!
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by Padilla
The heavyweight division is Wlad. Period.
I'm still holding out hope that one day Lennox comes back and takes on Wlad. :-\
No please no. if Lennox comes out of retirement to fight wlad he would be risking serious injury hes just too old. I think hes got too much sense for that anyway I just wish Evander did!
Evander Holyfield was never that good anyways. The guy has 9 losses!
Holyfield was a great cruiserweight, but honestly.................................
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
Not Me!
Hail Sultan!
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
People who follow boxing ?? ::**
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by Padilla
The heavyweight division is Wlad. Period.
I'm still holding out hope that one day Lennox comes back and takes on Wlad. :-\
No please no. if Lennox comes out of retirement to fight wlad he would be risking serious injury hes just too old. I think hes got too much sense for that anyway I just wish Evander did!
Evander Holyfield was never that good anyways. The guy has 9 losses!
Holyfield was a great cruiserweight, but honestly.................................
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
Not Me!
Hail Sultan!
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
People who follow boxing ?? ::**
Whatever, poser....
Don't even try to act like being an all time great heavyweight is the same as cruiserweight.
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by Padilla
The heavyweight division is Wlad. Period.
I'm still holding out hope that one day Lennox comes back and takes on Wlad. :-\
No please no. if Lennox comes out of retirement to fight wlad he would be risking serious injury hes just too old. I think hes got too much sense for that anyway I just wish Evander did!
Evander Holyfield was never that good anyways. The guy has 9 losses!
Holyfield was a great cruiserweight, but honestly.................................
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
Not Me!
Hail Sultan!
Who gives a S*** about cruiserweights??
People who follow boxing ?? ::**
Whatever, poser....
Don't even try to act like being an all time great heavyweight is the same as cruiserweight.
No comment i have answered this in your hate thread :)
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
the heavy-weight division is always compared to the greatest HW era of all time rather than just being appreciated for what it is for some reason...
W. Klitchko is as exciting of a KO guy as anyone in boxing right now: look at his slo-mo hits on brewster and brock....
he has had devastating KOs in his last fights and has got ko'd himself, which makes him a very exciting fighter to me.. Klitchko is also very skilled and very fast for his size and weight...has one of the best jabs and straight rights in boxing..
without klitchko i wouldnt have gotten in to boxing again a few years ago.. so the HW division is still bringing in fans.. and it is bringing them in all over the world...
the HW division has solid champs.... sultan, ruslan,(peter), klitchko, maskeav,
i like the HW divsion and think it is underrated.. but the HW's can be real boring with crappy fighters..... but i think the current champs, are exciting....
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
Frozen I am starting to think you know nothing about boxing first off you say Magarito is not very good boxer but you think Zab is the best when he losses all the time and has not won against a good fighter in a long fucking time and then you have the guts to say Evander was never that great to begin with well I have to say your knowledge is lacking my friend and Holyfield no doubt a top 15 all time geatest heavyweight of all time and with wins over old Foreman and Holmes, Moore, Tyson, and Bowie and held the belt more times then anyone at heavy he is no doubt a great heavy weight champion and as far as Sultan goes or what ever his name is he is lucky Evander was 44 years of age because if it would of happen with the young version of Evander your boy toy Sultan who could not even beat Austin would of got knocked the fuck out and he is lucky he fought a old Evander
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Evander Holyfield was never that good anyways. The guy has 9 losses!
Holyfield was a great cruiserweight, but honestly.................................
Who gives a shit about cruiserweights??
Not Me!
Hail Sultan!
....if Evander's not a great/good heavyweight then what the fuck is Sultan proving by letting him go the distance.....it wouldn't happen vs Wladimir.
Wlad would destroy Holyfield and Sultan!
Sultan DREW with Ray Austin.....he DREW with him......Ray Austin knocked Sultan down TWICE....and Wladimir KO'd Ray Austin without ever even throwing a right cross.
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by LEGION
It should be called the Hardlyweight Division ::**
...As I have explained so many times before about this heavyweight division, it is competitive and
COULD be exciting but the big fights aren't being made.
The title holders need to fight each other, the young undefeateds need to fight the older guys and so on.
There are some very interesting fights that could be made right now it's just a shame it isn't happening
:coolclick: Lyle. This is how I feel. Yeah, they're not the best that has ever been, but I think they're capable of having great fights. Styles make fights and no reason why they can't be put together.
Legion...I'd call it the Overweight division. Far too many out of shape fatties around who spend twelve rounds just looking for a hug.
Re: Current Heavyweight Division
Contrary to popular opinion. I believe Ruslan Chagaev is the best Heavyweight now.