Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I actually believe if you put all three of these fighters against each other 5 times each, you'd have a different outcome everytime. All three are at such an elite skill level that it's simply impossible to be bested by a single fighter numerous times, i.e., there isn't a fighter out there who has their number. I think it's almost frivilous to debate who is better, almost like debating who hits harder between a prime Tyson and Foreman.
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I agree with this and it bothers me when Mayweather is compared with great welters. PBF is no doubt a great fighter and by the end of his career might have a claim for top ten ATG. But I do not see him beating any of the top welterweights in their prime. Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Basilio, Trinidad, Gavilianamong others. All those guys, beat him at 147.
I would also say that prime DLH and prime Mosley would beat him at that weight as well.
Um he would definitely beat Trinidad. Armstrong had the feather weight championship when he had the welterweight cahmpionship so I can't see him beating Mayweather. IMO Mayweather has a close fight with either Robinson or Leonard.
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
I think robinson will break apart mayweather but leonard versus mayweather will probubly be close.
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I agree with this and it bothers me when Mayweather is compared with great welters. PBF is no doubt a great fighter and by the end of his career might have a claim for top ten ATG. But I do not see him beating any of the top welterweights in their prime. Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Basilio, Trinidad, Gavilianamong others. All those guys, beat him at 147.
I would also say that prime DLH and prime Mosley would beat him at that weight as well.
Um he would definitely beat Trinidad. Armstrong had the feather weight championship when he had the welterweight cahmpionship so I can't see him beating Mayweather. IMO Mayweather has a close fight with either Robinson or Leonard.
:o :o Sorry dude...MMMMM NO! Robinson at Welter + Batters Floyd
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
Flyode has not beat hall of famers at welter yet so we can not judge how good he is at the weight
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Flyode has not beat hall of famers at welter yet so we can not judge how good he is at the weight
what weight has he beaten hall of famers at, junior middleweight? oscar?
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
No Mayweather is ATG in Superfeatherweight and Lightweight those are his best division i welter he has not down much and has only had on Supermiddleweight fight and as far as lightwelterweight all i have to say is a old Gatti Mayweather has done best in Lightweight
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Mr140
No Mayweather is ATG in Superfeatherweight and Lightweight those are his best division i welter he has not down much and has only had on Supermiddleweight fight and as far as lightwelterweight all i have to say is a old Gatti Mayweather has done best in Lightweight
huh floyd has never fought at supermiddleweight ???
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
I meant say lightmiddle my bad but those are the groups i meant to say it was my bad
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
:bucktooth: :dunce: Just a TIMMY moment Im sure.
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Mr140
No Mayweather is ATG in Superfeatherweight and Lightweight those are his best division i welter he has not down much and has only had on Supermiddleweight fight and as far as lightwelterweight all i have to say is a old Gatti Mayweather has done best in Lightweight
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Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I agree with this and it bothers me when Mayweather is compared with great welters. PBF is no doubt a great fighter and by the end of his career might have a claim for top ten ATG. But I do not see him beating any of the top welterweights in their prime. Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Basilio, Trinidad, Gavilianamong others. All those guys, beat him at 147.
I would also say that prime DLH and prime Mosley would beat him at that weight as well.
Um he would definitely beat Trinidad. Armstrong had the feather weight championship when he had the welterweight cahmpionship so I can't see him beating Mayweather. IMO Mayweather has a close fight with either Robinson or Leonard.
At welter???
RObinson would assasinate them at welter!
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I agree with this and it bothers me when Mayweather is compared with great welters. PBF is no doubt a great fighter and by the end of his career might have a claim for top ten ATG. But I do not see him beating any of the top welterweights in their prime. Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Basilio, Trinidad, Gavilianamong others. All those guys, beat him at 147.
I would also say that prime DLH and prime Mosley would beat him at that weight as well.
Um he would definitely beat Trinidad. Armstrong had the feather weight championship when he had the welterweight cahmpionship so I can't see him beating Mayweather. IMO Mayweather has a close fight with either Robinson or Leonard.
Why, oh why does Trinidad's losses at middleweight always seem to affect his performance at 147? :shakehead:
I can't really speak about Armstrong cuz he was just from another century, but I don't see Mayweather beating anybody in that list.
Mayweather has to show me something at 147 before I put him up against any if the ATGs of that division.
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Leonard would beat Mayweather. Leonard STARTED his career at 147, before moving up to as high as 168.
Mayweather started at 130. If they met at 147, you have to go with Leonard because he was naturally bigger.
It's the same thing when people talk about Leonard vs. Whitaker. You can make a strong argument that Whitaker was better PFP, but you'd have to go with Leonard in a head-to-head fight at 147, since Whitaker was a natural lightweight, whereas Leonard was a natural welterweight.
I agree with this and it bothers me when Mayweather is compared with great welters. PBF is no doubt a great fighter and by the end of his career might have a claim for top ten ATG. But I do not see him beating any of the top welterweights in their prime. Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Basilio, Trinidad, Gavilianamong others. All those guys, beat him at 147.
I would also say that prime DLH and prime Mosley would beat him at that weight as well.
Um he would definitely beat Trinidad. Armstrong had the feather weight championship when he had the welterweight cahmpionship so I can't see him beating Mayweather. IMO Mayweather has a close fight with either Robinson or Leonard.
At welter???
RObinson would assasinate them at welter!
OH without question....A friend of my dads had some old old Robinson fights at WW on reel film....I have his 1st Tommy Bell bout, Angott and O'neill Bell.....To see him in action was truly amazing....Even the second Tommy Bell bout when Ray was put don was amazing.....Floyd IMO could not keep the constant pace...this was no chess match in these fights....they fought!! and fought HARD with skill.....it is really one of those things you have to see
Re: Sugar Ray Leonard v Floyd Mayweather
Robinson would clearly beat Floyd, as he would any welterweight.
