Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
Personally, and this may sound crazy, but I think he's better off with his mediocre chin (I won't say he has a glass jaw because he doesn't, thats an exaggeration). Because he's been starched before, he knows it can happen again and therefore fights a lot smarter, working behind the jab in a more workman like manner. This was probably the case for Lennox Lewis as well. Either way Wlad is a well oiled machine of destruction in the HW division.
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Personally, and this may sound crazy, but I think he's better off with his mediocre chin (I won't say he has a glass jaw because he doesn't, thats an exaggeration). Because he's been starched before, he knows it can happen again and therefore fights a lot smarter, working behind the jab in a more workman like manner. This was probably the case for Lennox Lewis as well. Either way Wlad is a well oiled machine of destruction in the HW division.
CC to ya good post.....You are right at times guys with solid jaws tend to disreguard things knowing they have the chin to back them up.....And in truth you are right his chin is not like fine china....Sanders hits like a sledge hammer and in the Brewster fight he was gassed
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Personally, and this may sound crazy, but I think he's better off with his mediocre chin (I won't say he has a glass jaw because he doesn't, thats an exaggeration). Because he's been starched before, he knows it can happen again and therefore fights a lot smarter, working behind the jab in a more workman like manner. This was probably the case for Lennox Lewis as well. Either way Wlad is a well oiled machine of destruction in the HW division.
CC to ya good post.....You are right at times guys with solid jaws tend to disreguard things knowing they have the chin to back them up.....And in truth you are right his chin is not like fine china....Sanders hits like a sledge hammer and in the Brewster fight he was gassed
If Wlad would do half of what Lennox did...if he would avenge his losses...mainly the one to Sanders...he's already knocked Brewster off...then he'd be aces in my book...he actually already is as far as the heavies are concerned.
In the end...Wlad catches waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much flack.
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Personally, and this may sound crazy, but I think he's better off with his mediocre chin (I won't say he has a glass jaw because he doesn't, thats an exaggeration). Because he's been starched before, he knows it can happen again and therefore fights a lot smarter, working behind the jab in a more workman like manner. This was probably the case for Lennox Lewis as well. Either way Wlad is a well oiled machine of destruction in the HW division.
CC to ya good post.....You are right at times guys with solid jaws tend to disreguard things knowing they have the chin to back them up.....And in truth you are right his chin is not like fine china....Sanders hits like a sledge hammer and in the Brewster fight he was gassed
If Wlad would do half of what Lennox did...if he would avenge his losses...mainly the one to Sanders...he's already knocked Brewster off...then he'd be aces in my book...he actually already is as far as the heavies are concerned.
In the end...Wlad catches waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much flack.
I like Wlad and am a big fan...I do not really give him any flack for the losses...they happened Wlad is still coming into his own even though he is the best HW today he has growing to do...Like I said there is no shame in losing to sanders..especially at that point in his career...the loss crazy as it sounds may have done him good...He was starting to get a little too much involved in his own hype at the time.....Lennox did not really become the champion he was until he was 34 or so......
With that being said I think I am a little bit biased when it comes to Lennox....IMO he is the best HW since Holmes and that is saying a lot......Wlad and many others have a looong way to go before even being able to have a comparison to Lewis....
Lennox could box as good as any HW there was with the exception of Louis and Ali...and he had a sledge hammer of a right hand when he let it go...he could out box you or he could get the one punch KO...both losses were due to his cocky attitude and like you said he avenged them both....I can still hear the shot he landed on Rahman in the rematch...
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
DaxxKahn, I respect you more than ever not to relatiate, Anywyas I think wlad has a solid chin and is the better fighter out of both fighters, really what has Vitali done than lose a close one to Lewis
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Wlad has always been an impressive guy. In the beginning he was way too robotic with his movement even when throwing his punches but the sheer size and build was enough to catch our attention, Then as he started to become respected Sanders starched him out and he became another I told you so story in reference to the robotic style of European HWts outside of the UK that seemed to be all power with nothing else...
He bounced back and again became one of the divisions most respected Hwts outside of Lewis and Tua, Holyfield ect...
He gets starched by Brewster...just as critics write him off again Wlad once more rebuilds this time with Manny Stewart...Since then his offence has even greatly improved...He flowsd freely with shots,,,seems very relaxed in the ring....With no question the best HW in the game today...and he is still getting better...The one armed destruction of Ray Austin ( though Ray is not what you call a great HW still is a big strong guy with decent skills) was one of the most dominant performances of any HW in the last 7yrs....
Could anyone imagine the unstoppable force this guy would be if he had the ability of Vitalty to take shots to the chin?...He would have to defend his title twice in one night every time out just to make it seem fair....
Maybe it is just me but from the way he has improved so much and seems to keep improving I just imagine him with a granite chin and think it would almost be unfair to any of todays crop of contenders to even have to face him for a title
Wlad lacks heart more than chin.
Totally disagree. Wlad has always shown heart. Against Sanders...a HUGE puncher...he just couldn't handle the shots. He got up everytime that he was dropped.
I have never seen him show a lack of heart...if he lacks anything...it's stamina...but that's just me humble erpinion! ;D
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DaxxKahn, I respect you more than ever not to relatiate.
:coolclick: Such a goot bwoy! ;)
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
Gota agree with wacko here, wlad definitely does not lack heart! He just kept on getting up in the sanders fight, what like 3 times, if he had no heart would he just not have called it quits after the first knockdown. In the purity fight his legs were clearly gone yet he didn't want to go down, his corner had to step in...the man's got plenty of heart
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
it be good but v still hits harder
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
DaxxKahn, I respect you more than ever not to relatiate, Anywyas I think wlad has a solid chin and is the better fighter out of both fighters, really what has Vitali done than lose a close one to Lewis
CC#465 no hard feeling mate
Re: What if Wlad had Vitaly's chin????
if wlad has vitali's chin he would only have one loss. His first loss was because his stamina isn't great and he got really tired and couldn't continue.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Wlad has always been an impressive guy. In the beginning he was way too robotic with his movement even when throwing his punches but the sheer size and build was enough to catch our attention, Then as he started to become respected Sanders starched him out and he became another I told you so story in reference to the robotic style of European HWts outside of the UK that seemed to be all power with nothing else...
He bounced back and again became one of the divisions most respected Hwts outside of Lewis and Tua, Holyfield ect...
He gets starched by Brewster...just as critics write him off again Wlad once more rebuilds this time with Manny Stewart...Since then his offence has even greatly improved...He flowsd freely with shots,,,seems very relaxed in the ring....With no question the best HW in the game today...and he is still getting better...The one armed destruction of Ray Austin ( though Ray is not what you call a great HW still is a big strong guy with decent skills) was one of the most dominant performances of any HW in the last 7yrs....
Could anyone imagine the unstoppable force this guy would be if he had the ability of Vitalty to take shots to the chin?...He would have to defend his title twice in one night every time out just to make it seem fair....
Maybe it is just me but from the way he has improved so much and seems to keep improving I just imagine him with a granite chin and think it would almost be unfair to any of todays crop of contenders to even have to face him for a title
Wlad lacks heart more than chin.
Totally disagree. Wlad has always shown heart. Against Sanders...a HUGE puncher...he just couldn't handle the shots. He got up everytime that he was dropped.
I have never seen him show a lack of heart...if he lacks anything...it's stamina...but that's just me humble erpinion! ;D
sorry wack but he lacks serious heart IMO -shit what i say isn't word. but you watch the times he has been put on his ass, fighterd with heart stay up, block, hold and move
anyone who has landed a half decent shot on wlad has sent him to the ground like he has been hit by a fucking bullet...
i mean how many fighters with a shit chinc have been put on their ass 3 times in a fight and won on points?
peter put him down stupid amount of times, why because wlad gets hit by a decent shot, fills his shorts and goes down
the boy can box with great skill but has almost no heart to tough it out and carry on without jitting the deack imo
