Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
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Originally Posted by CFH
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Ibragimov is a fairly good fighter but lacks punching power. He couldn't drop Briggs or Holyfield. I think Vlad will K.O him before the half way mark.
Sultan has good power he fought a hispanic fighter in 06 i think and it was one of the KOs of the year, but steward has fine tuned wlads jab and sultan in the end is simply to small for Wlad...
sultan will get murdered on his way inside, and although he has a punchers chance against an average chin wlad, wlad probably wont give sultan the chance if he uses his jab correctly...
and if sultan tries to outbox like he has been doing, wlad will blast him with the jab until he lines up his steel hammer right and destroys sultan with a career altering straight right....
and thats if he doesnt get Ko'd by wlads devastating left hook
He beat a poorly prepared and badly out of shape Javier Mora, admittedly in impressive fashion, but there's a huge different between that and being even remotely competitive with Wlad.
what's your point??? how does that contrast anything i said??
you said he doesnt have good punching power, and i said he had one of the KO's of the year proving, he might be the hardest puncher in the world, but obviously he has power.. he knocked mora completely unconscious..you have to have power to do that .... dont get me wrong he isnt powerful enough for klitch to worry about because he wont hardly get close enough to land a power shot
he doesnt try to throw power shots against much bigger opponents.. and he fought cautiously against holyfield for some reason..
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
I never said he had no punching power, in fact I think Sultan has decent punching power, almost all heavyweights have some degree of punching power by virtue of the weight they can put behind their punches. I was simply putting your example of his supposed punching power in perspective; Mora was an easy target because he was out of shape and underprepared, thus he was unable to avoid being knocked out.
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
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Originally Posted by CFH
I never said he had no punching power, in fact I think Sultan has decent punching power, almost all heavyweights have some degree of punching power by virtue of the weight they can put behind their punches. I was simply putting your example of his supposed punching power in perspective; Mora was an easy target because he was out of shape and underprepared, thus he was unable to avoid being knocked out.
cc CFH i got you confused with klitchfanaustalia... sorry bro.
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by CFH
I never said he had no punching power, in fact I think Sultan has decent punching power, almost all heavyweights have some degree of punching power by virtue of the weight they can put behind their punches. I was simply putting your example of his supposed punching power in perspective; Mora was an easy target because he was out of shape and underprepared, thus he was unable to avoid being knocked out.
cc CFH i got you confused with klitchfanaustalia... sorry bro.
No worries Fire, I probably could have been clearer in what I was trying to say anyways. CC returned
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....what is that based on Fire?
If it's the Sanders fight then you are SORELY MISTAKEN.
Sanders had a good chin a SNEAKY left cross and no fear of losing anything because he had nothing to lose in the first place.
Sultan needs to be on the inside, he doesn't take a good shot, and he's a small fry. RAY AUSTIN wore out Sultan and that's all we need to know.
The first right cross Wladdy lands it's goodnight sweetheart
he cant get to the inside without getting ko'd in 3 rounds, it's not an option for someone of his size. once he got inside he would be stunned from the jabs and the moment he did get inside wlad would tie him up... he cant plan on fighting an inside fight......
yes sanders is the perfect example of what the match COULD BE LIKE if sultan was as big and as powerful as sanders was... either he would get ko'd in the 1-5th or wlad would. it is a good style to beat wlad, but above everything - power is what is needed to beat wlad..
like i said, i dont think anyone including sanders right now could stay in the ring 12 rounds with wlad w/out getting ko'd
i seen the sultan and austin fight and was REALLY unimpressed with both.. i expected austin to get smoked by wlad but it seems like sultan has improved alot, although i think ruslan would KO sultan......
the only reason i am interested in this bout is because ive wanted to see wlad unify for years, and this is his chance.... i think there is probably about a 95% chance of wlad winning
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
I didn't read through everyone's posts...no offense...but Wlad will easily win & humiliate Sultan.
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
....at least Chagaev can take a punch.
Sultan was hyped up and just hasn't lived up to expectations.....Wladimir will just mop the floor with him
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
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Ibragimov is a fairly good fighter but lacks punching power. He couldn't drop Briggs or Holyfield. I think Vlad will K.O him before the half way mark.
Sultan has good power he fought a hispanic fighter in 06 i think and it was one of the KOs of the year, but steward has fine tuned wlads jab and sultan in the end is simply to small for Wlad...
sultan will get murdered on his way inside, and although he has a punchers chance against an average chin wlad, wlad probably wont give sultan the chance if he uses his jab correctly...
and if sultan tries to outbox like he has been doing, wlad will blast him with the jab until he lines up his steel hammer right and destroys sultan with a career altering straight right....
and thats if he doesnt get Ko'd by wlads devastating left hook
He beat a poorly prepared and badly out of shape Javier Mora, admittedly in impressive fashion, but there's a huge different between that and being even remotely competitive with Wlad.
what's your point??? how does that contrast anything i said??
you said he doesnt have good punching power, and i said he had one of the KO's of the year proving, he might be the hardest puncher in the world, but obviously he has power.. he knocked mora completely unconscious..you have to have power to do that .... dont get me wrong he isnt powerful enough for klitch to worry about because he wont hardly get close enough to land a power shot
he doesnt try to throw power shots against much bigger opponents.. and he fought cautiously against holyfield for some reason..
Nah I said that. I just go on that when he fought Briggs, Briggs was not even trying hard and sultan still couldn't get to him and with the fight with a 40-something-year-old Holyfield he couldn't really knock him either.
Don't get me wrong, I respect the guy! Just I respect Vlad more and believe Vlad would take him.
Re: Klitschko-Sultan Feb. 23 Madison Square Garden Fire Poll: Who wins and why??
the only way sultan would win cause of some crazy left
and plus a belt is on the line that would make wk train harder if it happen wk ko 4 he'll start slow
