Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
I really don't care that this is on PPV. One cause I'm not watching it either way. Two because HBO (I think) doesn't have just an unlimited budget for regular non PPV boxing cards and if this one was put on there it might be at the expense of a much better fight.
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I really don't care that this is on PPV. One cause I'm not watching it either way. Two because HBO (I think) doesn't have just an unlimited budget for regular non PPV boxing cards and if this one was put on there it might be at the expense of a much better fight.
Very good point.
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I tjink it can be summed to: Does anyone care:NO!!!!!
Will we watch it? Yes. They are still ATG. Is anyone not going to watch it at all?
If it's not PPV I'll watch it.
I think it is PPV, which means I won't be paying for it. I'd only watch the replay on HBO the following week if I hear it wasn't a borefest. If it's another Hopkins-Trinidad/Wright-Trinidad, been there, done that.
Are you kidding me?
You think tito - Hopkins was boring?
Pshhh..
That was a masterpiece on the part Of Bhop and it takes a true fan to experiance skill and showmanship like that
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
And this fight is at what weight?
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
OH CRAP,IS THIS S*** PPV?!?!!?! F*** THAT!!!! That is a JOKE!!!!! :o
Carzy stuff dude. Pavlik/Taylor{best fight this year imo} and Kess/Cal were FREE. But RJJ/Trinidad being sold to the public is almost criminal. Not trying to take away anything from these guys and their greatness, but at this time HBO can suck a test#cle if they think I'm paying for this one.
And then HBO run out of money?! Fucking idiiots!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I really don't care that this is on PPV. One cause I'm not watching it either way. Two because HBO (I think) doesn't have just an unlimited budget for regular non PPV boxing cards and if this one was put on there it might be at the expense of a much better fight.
Dude,you are so right! I think we should boycott this fight!!!! >:mad >:mad >:mad PPV my ass!!!
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And this fight is at what weight?
170 pounds I think.
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I love love love both these fighters and both of them are all time greats,but I'm not sure about this fight at all. If RJJ doesn't want him,he'll look bad. He wins,so what,Tito is at best,a 160 pounder. Even if Tito wins,so what,RJJ is old. Neither fighter wins unless they look really spectacular.
I'll watch it because I'm such a fan.
You never know tho.
i remember mosley - vargas being quite similar last year and look whats happened to shane since then.
If roy looks good there is a chance that it will kick start something.
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Cc :)
And I found this pic earlier that i fwockenn love!
Justa bit of a random time to post it! :P
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LOL They are like twinnieeess!!!
Puerto Rican Champs :) 8)
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by The Magic Man
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Cc :)
And I found this pic earlier that i fwockenn love!
Justa bit of a random time to post it! :P
Is it me or does Cotto allways look like he would nothing more than to beat the sh!t out of Tito whenever they are in a picture together... LOL
I am very interested in this fight as a big fan of both fighters. And I also have a funny feeling that this fight might be better than most think.
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Please tell me then why he retires only after losing?...Oh wait I know he just felt it was time right?....Hell the first time I thought nothing of it...Then he comes back beats Mayorga talks about how he is going to beat this one, beat that one, unify titles show the world how he is the true champion blah blah blah blah,,,,,,He loses to Winky Wright in his next fight all of a sudden the talk is out the door and he retires again..
FELIX IS A SORE LOSER PERIOD!!!!! Dont even bother trying to defend him there is no valid excuse...he talked trash before hopkins,,he lost he retired,,,he came back beat Mayorga talked trash on how he was going to prove he was the best....got beat and retired....No way to defend that...Actions speak louder then words
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Please tell me then why he retires only after losing?...Oh wait I know he just felt it was time right?....Hell the first time I thought nothing of it...Then he comes back beats Mayorga talks about how he is going to beat this one, beat that one, unify titles show the world how he is the true champion blah blah blah blah,,,,,,He loses to Winky Wright in his next fight all of a sudden the talk is out the door and he retires again..
FELIX IS A SORE LOSER PERIOD!!!!! Dont even bother trying to defend him there is no valid excuse...he talked trash before hopkins,,he lost he retired,,,he came back beat Mayorga talked trash on how he was going to prove he was the best....got beat and retired....No way to defend that...Actions speak louder then words
don't get me wrong, im not an expert on tito - i wanna find out more of him, but atm i still think he isn't anywhere close to being the great people claim he was BUT wasn't he at the end of his career after wright shcoold him, and staying on to losse more would be what guys like u and me hate to see happen to good fighters?
Re: Jones Vs Trinidad in January 08' Does anyone really care?
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Please tell me then why he retires only after losing?...Oh wait I know he just felt it was time right?....Hell the first time I thought nothing of it...Then he comes back beats Mayorga talks about how he is going to beat this one, beat that one, unify titles show the world how he is the true champion blah blah blah blah,,,,,,He loses to Winky Wright in his next fight all of a sudden the talk is out the door and he retires again..
FELIX IS A SORE LOSER PERIOD!!!!! Dont even bother trying to defend him there is no valid excuse...he talked trash before hopkins,,he lost he retired,,,he came back beat Mayorga talked trash on how he was going to prove he was the best....got beat and retired....No way to defend that...Actions speak louder then words
Dude, you seriously have personal issues with Tito. I don't recall Tito ever talking trash. If you recall CORRECTLY, Hopkins was doing all the trash talking before his fight with Tito. Remember the whole flag controversy when B-hop kept throwing it on the floor, stomping it? Remember when he did that in Puerto Rico and he was chased off the stage by fans and barely escaped death by running? Tito is not known as a trash talker. If he says he is going to defeat an opponent, or expresses his confidence, is that "trash talking" or confidence? I say the latter. The way you make it sound, he is like a Mayweather or even a Hopkins. Those guys are trash talkers. Tito's not. In terms of retirng, perhaps he doubts his ability to beat the top guys and retires because of it. Then maybe he feels that desire to hear the crowd chanting "Tito, Tito, Tito..." (and perhaps hears the ringing of the cash register) and decides to unretire. Is Oscar de la Hoya a sore loser because he retires every other day? Clearly, Tito unretires for the financial gain and if he says it's because he feels he can defeat the top guys, he's only doing what most athletes do-claim it's not about the money. You should know that dude.
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By the way Daxx, you clearly care about the fight since you created the original post and keep "wondering" about how everyone feels. :-*
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
I have to admit at one time Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad were two of the most talented fighters on the planet like them or hate them you respected their skill...But now Jones has proved beatable even fragile to an extent..
Trinidada has showed he is not a TRUE champion by the way he just decides to retire the second he loses...Not take a minute off to recoup plain out retires..plus he is not even a gracious loser...
Felix is back WAAAYYYYYY past his best weight as we all seen even 160 was a bit over his head when he faced elite comp...
Jones is on his way out just hoping for one last glory pose.....
Is this really worth the efforts?
Just my opp wondering what everyone else thinks on it as a Serious fight?
Much of what you say is valid, but I do have a problem with your claim that Trinidad is not a TRUE champion because he decides to retire. I mean, the man ducked no one and came to FIGHT every night!! Not a gracious loser? The man had nothing but respect for his opponents and for all people in general. I also think Trinidad is judged by his most notable losses to Wright and Hopkins, but he fought ELITE competition all of his career (you could look it up as Yogi would say), especially when he became champ at 147. As for his fight with Jones, I definitely care about it. Maybe I am like one of those boxers who keeps hanging on for that one last chance at glory. I am hanging on for that one last moment of thrill that Tito used to give his fans, when whole bars would erupt when Trinidad would suddenly erupt with that classic left hook. Since I have been watching boxing, no one has generated the excitement of Tito during a fight, at least no one that I have followed. So come January, I will be there at the Garden watching Felix and hoping for one more thrill ride.
Please tell me then why he retires only after losing?...Oh wait I know he just felt it was time right?....Hell the first time I thought nothing of it...Then he comes back beats Mayorga talks about how he is going to beat this one, beat that one, unify titles show the world how he is the true champion blah blah blah blah,,,,,,He loses to Winky Wright in his next fight all of a sudden the talk is out the door and he retires again..
FELIX IS A SORE LOSER PERIOD!!!!! Dont even bother trying to defend him there is no valid excuse...he talked trash before hopkins,,he lost he retired,,,he came back beat Mayorga talked trash on how he was going to prove he was the best....got beat and retired....No way to defend that...Actions speak louder then words
Dude, you seriously have personal issues with Tito. I don't recall Tito ever talking trash. If you recall CORRECTLY, Hopkins was doing all the trash talking before his fight with Tito. Remember the whole flag controversy when B-hop kept throwing it on the floor, stomping it? Remember when he did that in Puerto Rico and he was chased off the stage by fans and barely escaped death by running? Tito is not known as a trash talker. If he says he is going to defeat an opponent, or expresses his confidence, is that "trash talking" or confidence? I say the latter. The way you make it sound, he is like a Mayweather or even a Hopkins. Those guys are trash talkers. Tito's not. In terms of retirng, perhaps he doubts his ability to beat the top guys and retires because of it. Then maybe he feels that desire to hear the crowd chanting "Tito, Tito, Tito..." (and perhaps hears the ringing of the cash register) and decides to unretire. Is Oscar de la Hoya a sore loser because he retires every other day? Clearly, Tito unretires for the financial gain and if he says it's because he feels he can defeat the top guys, he's only doing what most athletes do-claim it's not about the money. You should know that dude.
After the Mayorga fight Tito was not standing in the ring yelling he was #1?...He is the best?...The real champion??....C'Mon Rican.....I never said Felix was not a great fighter when he fought I just said he was a sore loser period!...Did he even acknowledge the fact or give credit to Hopkins or Wright for their wins? NO...OK Hopkins I can understand because Bernard totally went off of trash talk in the ring and insulted the Puerto Rican people with the whole flag thing...But what about Wright?...Winky is a class act all the way....No credit to his opp...Hell he went AWOL right after the fight....
You answered your own question Rican when you said he questioned his ability to beat the top tier....True fighters with the heart of a champion get back in the ring not walk away :-\...Sorry just how I feel about it...Like I said in my earlier post...His retiring after the Hopkins fight was one thing coming back making claims he was "BACK" and "Tito" is #1 came flowing out of his mouth like water over the falls until he lost to Winky...Then he went AWOL.....
As for Oscar...I am not a fan of his but his resume is one that can not be criticized win or lose he fights only the best guy available
