Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Taylor is damaged goods. He was already showing signs of deterioration a few fights before the Pavlik fight and will get stopped again.
I thought Taylor looked just about at his best in his last fight, even considering it ended in a loss. He looked really sharp and had bad intentions, but he just got tired.
:coolclick: Agreed. Taylor looked fantastic & had Pavlik in some serious spots. Taylor's not so much damaged goods as he is mentally fwocked. I truthfully believe that he could work his issues out given some ample time & consideration.
The rematch should be a smoker.
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Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by rene69
Taylor is damaged goods. He was already showing signs of deterioration a few fights before the Pavlik fight and will get stopped again.
I thought Taylor looked just about at his best in his last fight, even considering it ended in a loss. He looked really sharp and had bad intentions, but he just got tired.
:coolclick: Agreed. Taylor looked fantastic & had Pavlik in some serious spots. Taylor's not so much damaged goods as he is mentally fwocked. I truthfully believe that he could work his issues out given some ample time & consideration.
The rematch should be a smoker.
Taylor looked awful against Spinks & Ouma, and he only looked good for the 1st 4 or 5rds in the PAvlik fight , then faded . I remember when he could fight 12rds and looked strong doing it.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by rene69
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by rene69
Taylor is damaged goods. He was already showing signs of deterioration a few fights before the Pavlik fight and will get stopped again.
I thought Taylor looked just about at his best in his last fight, even considering it ended in a loss. He looked really sharp and had bad intentions, but he just got tired.
:coolclick: Agreed. Taylor looked fantastic & had Pavlik in some serious spots. Taylor's not so much damaged goods as he is mentally fwocked. I truthfully believe that he could work his issues out given some ample time & consideration.
The rematch should be a smoker.
Taylor looked awful against Spinks & Ouma, and he only looked good for the 1st 4 or 5rds in the PAvlik fight , then faded . I remember when he could fight 12rds and looked strong doing it.
If you'll look back...he was fighting blown up welters & light middles then too that were nowhere near the skill level of the last 5 or 6 men that he would face.
It makes all the difference in the world.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
Pavlik will stop JT again and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in the same or maybe earlier round than the 1st time around. Though Pavlik was losing{somehow} on all the scorecards the 1st fight up until the k.o., I think after the second round it was all over for JT. One of those intangibles that come into play; Pavlik getting up from the knckdown and not running away trying to survive, but going straight back into Taylor and basically giving him the chance to finish him. JT had 2+ minutes to do it and couldn't manage to do the job, and Pavlik coming back in the 3rd and on making Jermaine fight, sticking to his gameplan. Taylor is emotionally shaky, and that 2nd round chance he failed to capitalize on had to have some effect. That was the moment JT realized him and Steward spent too much time underestimating Pavlik. Actually, that thought might have occured while JT was sinking to the canvas. And Pavlik won't give any freebies to Taylor this time.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by rene69
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by rene69
Taylor is damaged goods. He was already showing signs of deterioration a few fights before the Pavlik fight and will get stopped again.
I thought Taylor looked just about at his best in his last fight, even considering it ended in a loss. He looked really sharp and had bad intentions, but he just got tired.
:coolclick: Agreed. Taylor looked fantastic & had Pavlik in some serious spots. Taylor's not so much damaged goods as he is mentally fwocked. I truthfully believe that he could work his issues out given some ample time & consideration.
The rematch should be a smoker.
Taylor looked awful against Spinks & Ouma, and he only looked good for the 1st 4 or 5rds in the PAvlik fight , then faded . I remember when he could fight 12rds and looked strong doing it.
If you'll look back...he was fighting blown up welters & light middles then too that were nowhere near the skill level of the last 5 or 6 men that he would face.
It makes all the difference in the world.
Yo Wacko i replied back to you maybe you missed it.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
I was impressed with Taylor in the first few rounds and it wasnt untill he kept backing into the corner that I thought he was in any kind of trouble against Pavlik. I dont think it will go 12 rounds but I think it will go longer than the first fight.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by rene69
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Deanrw
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Originally Posted by rene69
Taylor is damaged goods. He was already showing signs of deterioration a few fights before the Pavlik fight and will get stopped again.
I thought Taylor looked just about at his best in his last fight, even considering it ended in a loss. He looked really sharp and had bad intentions, but he just got tired.
:coolclick: Agreed. Taylor looked fantastic & had Pavlik in some serious spots. Taylor's not so much damaged goods as he is mentally fwocked. I truthfully believe that he could work his issues out given some ample time & consideration.
The rematch should be a smoker.
Taylor looked awful against Spinks & Ouma, and he only looked good for the 1st 4 or 5rds in the PAvlik fight , then faded . I remember when he could fight 12rds and looked strong doing it.
If you'll look back...he was fighting blown up welters & light middles then too that were nowhere near the skill level of the last 5 or 6 men that he would face.
It makes all the difference in the world.
Yo Wacko i replied back to you maybe you missed it.
Yo Ice...maybe I di-int! ;D
Okay...as you should know by the annoying amount of rehash threads of the Pavlik Taylor fight that I kept drumming up...I've probably watched that fight 21 times...so...
NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH! :P
Seriously...though...things aren't always cut & dry with Taylor...& he did better against Hopkins in the remach...I'd tend to believe he'll do better against Pavlik in their rematch.
Granted...that could mean that he lasts more than 7.
The thing is...Pavlik's got the equalizer in both hands...& that makes a huge difference against any man. The thing is...Taylor's proven to date to have a fairly sturdy chin...I honestly want to see a more competitive fight than the last one...& it was competitive as all get out...I'd just love to see it go the stretch but have a repeat of the last fight around the 12th round...both men down & out in a pier six brawl.
Normally I don't dig on that shit...but Pavlik's a hell of a fighter...bar none.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
Seriously...though. ..things aren't always cut & dry with Taylor...& he did better against Hopkins in the remach...I'd tend to believe he'll do better against Pavlik in their rematch.
I didn't really feel Taylor done that much better in rematch he actually done better in the first fight because he was way ahead on points but he lost last 4 rounds because of Stamina i felt the 2nd fight was just as close as there first meeting.
The thing is...Pavlik's got the equalizer in both hands...& that makes a huge difference against any man. The thing is...Taylor's proven to date to have a fairly sturdy chin...I honestly want to see a more competitive fight than the last one...& it was competitive as all get out...I'd just love to see it go the stretch but have a repeat of the last fight around the 12th round...both men down & out in a pier six brawl.
I just think Pavlik has Taylor's number style wise because he has a longer reach and he can catch Taylor with the jab all the time plus Pavlik is the stronger man = another loss for Taylor imo.
I would love the fight to go the distance and be like Gatti vs Ward or ect but i doubt it will imo.
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I didn't really feel Taylor done that much better in rematch he actually done better in the first fight because he was way ahead on points but he lost last 4 rounds because of Stamina i felt the 2nd fight was just as close as there first meeting.
Really?
Totally TOTALLY disagree here. Hopkins did less in the rematch & Taylor did more...I will go to me grave feeling that Hopkins won the first fight. He landed more & he was the more effective & he punished Taylor down the stretch.
None of that happened in the second fight & Taylor seemed more focused down the stretch.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I just think Pavlik has Taylor's number style wise because he has a longer reach and he can catch Taylor with the jab all the time plus Pavlik is the stronger man = another loss for Taylor imo.
Pavlik's got the advantage because he's a pusher with power & he's got the moxy to wear Taylor's ass down. Taylor just doesn't have the confidence anymore that he used to have.
He's fucked...unless he boxes like he used to...unless he uses his head.
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I would love the fight to go the distance and be like Gatti vs Ward or ect but i doubt it will imo.
Agreed...but I still want him to hammer him out right at the end. ;D
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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I didn't really feel Taylor done that much better in rematch he actually done better in the first fight because he was way ahead on points but he lost last 4 rounds because of Stamina i felt the 2nd fight was just as close as there first meeting.
Really?
Totally TOTALLY disagree here. Hopkins did less in the rematch & Taylor did more...I will go to me grave feeling that Hopkins won the first fight. He landed more & he was the more effective & he punished Taylor down the stretch.
None of that happened in the second fight & Taylor seemed more focused down the stretch.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I just think Pavlik has Taylor's number style wise because he has a longer reach and he can catch Taylor with the jab all the time plus Pavlik is the stronger man = another loss for Taylor imo.
Pavlik's got the advantage because he's a pusher with power & he's got the moxy to wear Taylor's a** down. Taylor just doesn't have the confidence anymore that he used to have.
He's fucked...unless he boxes like he used to...unless he uses his head.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I would love the fight to go the distance and be like Gatti vs Ward or ect but i doubt it will imo.
Agreed...but I still want him to hammer him out right at the end. ;D
Really?
Totally TOTALLY disagree here. Hopkins did less in the rematch & Taylor did more...I will go to me grave feeling that Hopkins won the first fight. He landed more & he was the more effective & he punished Taylor down the stretch.
None of that happened in the second fight & Taylor seemed more focused down the stretch.
I haven't watched the fight in ages but i remember Hopkins starting a bit quicker than he had done in the first meeting they shared alot of rounds i thought it was very close Taylor did look more focused down the stretch i agree but i didn't really feel he done much better bro.
Pavlik's got the advantage because he's a pusher with power & he's got the moxy to wear Taylor's a** down. Taylor just doesn't have the confidence anymore that he used to have.
He's fucked...unless he boxes like he used to...unless he uses his head.
Yep i agree i think the jab was the key in first fight Pavlik's jab was like a power shot it was rocking Taylor's head back all the time do you see Taylor boxing more cautious fight in the rematch ??
Agreed...but I still want him to hammer him out right at the end.
Wouldn't we all Wacko ;)
Re: Pavlik-Taylor 2 Tickets Go On Sale This Saturday Pretty Good Read Aswell.
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Agreed...but I still want him to hammer him out right at the end.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Wouldn't we all Wacko ;)
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