Its holding right now,let me PM youQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Its holding right now,let me PM youQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Yeah the back wasn't a problem at all. I'm going to get the vid and post it since if I write my version of what happened it'll sound bad. I'd rather just let other people judge for themselves. I'm also going to put a few other bouts up which surprised me. The girl who won the title in the end got a walk over for her second bout.
The other girl was forbidden to compete based on the medical - there's a rule that you have a pregnancy test done within 2 days but last year it wasn't an issue since people arrive from interstate Thursday and the finals are on Sunday - it's a little difficult to pay for and have a pregnancy test done both in your home state and at the nationals. Incidentally the coach of the girl who won that title by walk over is also the coach of the Australian women's team. Perhaps a coincidence - perhaps not.
Ultimately I've decided to take my training in another direction. Looking to go pro now. The last girl i fought before the nationals just went pro. She was a weight class heavier than me and I still - in my opinion - gave her a decent run for my money once I got started. I think I started a little better at the nationals (although still not perfectly) so I've improved there.
Judging by that I'm hoping that girls at the pro level aren't too much for me to handle and I'm going to give myself maybe 6 months to train specifically for all the little things which will be different in the pros. At least I'm counting on having a contract which says my opponent makes weight or forfeits. Everyone makes weight at the nationals but all other interstate bouts I've had I've had to go against girls who end up being heavier than the agreed weight.
The nice thing about Pro,is you generally have the tab for your tests paid for by the promoter,and they almost allways have Doctors lined up to hot line your tests(some states have a ton of tests they want so this is a god send)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharla
my last fight i was sick as a dog...i broke a fever that day maybe 3 hours before the fight. i went thinking i will bow out and get better. but once at the venue, i got the urge to fight. yeah i was sick, and tired but well wtf i just had to go for it as for your old age, unless you can say 40 and mean it please don't mention it again. you can hang tuff with some injuries, but as a boxer the hands,wrists and back are ones that can cause long term problems...so watch these and remember most likely if you are hurting and your opponent is a serious boxer they are also not in prime shape. most combat athletes compete with injuries or at the very least not being 100% ...but always step back and consider what will this do to you in the long run? and what in the short term.. better to heal as much a spossible, but let some things go as they are. hope this helps
Ankles as well,trust me on this one,its your base and if they go,your done as done could beQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Good point CC iceman - at 27 I feel old compared to the other amateurs competing - I was the oldest on the team. Also with my back bothering me I felt a lot older than I was 2 years ago but a lot of that is attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I know a lot of others including some on this forum don't allow age to be an excuse and I like that attitude. When I first started to get niggling injuries I had that attitude and then after a while I guess it wore me down a bit.
That's stupid though because I've had to learn o lot which I hope will ultimately make my training more effective than it was before when I could just hammer myself day in day out without planning anything for recovery or injury prevention.
The comp is over now and it's given me a lot to think about. I found a few new things the week before which have helped my back more than ever and I'm on the way to feeling young again. :)
I've got a basic training plan written up to cover me until the end of April next year. I figure by then I'll know what's around, where I have to go and what I need to do to take the next step.
One thing I do think is odd is that over the last few months I've been able to make weight more easily but still had a bit more muscle than the other girls in my division. I've often heard people say that women will 'fill out' with muscle later than men (but reproductively develop earlier) so I'm wondering if being a little older might mean I have the ability to become more powerful with time even though i need to be more careful not to injure myself.
It's a nice thought anyway and seems to mesh with the impressions I've got of the few female boxers I've met who are in their thirties. Here once you turn thirty-four you can no longer compete as an amateur so I haven't met many but those I've met were scary!
boxing is also a fickle sport, at 12 and 0 you are good,as a pro but lose number 13 to a shmuck who just had a perfect day and you may never really fight again....mma is better in this, but that is a totally different sport...so keep in mind esp as you decide about pro fighting, what will it cost if i lose when i could put it off to heal...as a side thought i'd hate to have a nick attatched to me like th boxer with brittle hands...forgot who that was but that would suck
Sorry to hear it didn't go to plan Sharla. But for you to react this way shows ssome serious determination and I applaud you for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharla
The best of Luck on your pro journey anything can happen when you set your mind and body to it.
Yeah I see your point Iceman - which is why I'm giving myself 6 months to prepare. I want to make sure I'm ready for it and I think amateur boxing is so different from professional boxing - especially with the lighter female weight classes - that i won't learn anything by having more amateur bouts that will help me in the pros. I know a couple of small pro male fighters who I've sparred before who I might get to help me out ......... glad you made me think of that Iceman - I might get my finances in order and pay them for some training since they know the pro game! :)
CC for the encouragement hitmandonny. A compliment on determination is especially meaningful coming from someone like you :)
personally i think amateur boxing gives you very little to take to the pro ring, i mean watch americans...always coming forward..left right etc...no real deception and no time to set a strategy....pro is pro Andre Ward looked like hsit in his first pro fight...and this was the much touted olympic boxer..learn the game exploit the rules..have fun thats the bottom line when it isn't fun quit...thats my opinion
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Originally Posted by iceman
It gives your trainers time to find the holes in your game,and to beat out the little hiccups you have in your game,without it counting against your record that much.
In the pro's,early on,they call,you go,and if your doing something wrong your trainer missed
Oh well
Good luck Sharla. If you always intended to turn pro this seems as good a time as any. LIke Ice said, you're not that old ;).
Take your time, and look after your body.
Thanks for the encouragement CC Bomp. :)
I know what you mean TM and I agree the amateurs is the best place to start. The real difference between pro and amateurs I think is most obvious in the smaller weight divisions though.
Look at the pro female bantamweights and a lot of them have KOs on the records - no such thing in the amateurs. Over three 2 min rounds, wearing headgear, scoring points for either anything or nothing depending on the judges, with refs who give eight counts very quickly - there's really not much of the fight element left - it's all point scoring. Even what scores and what doesn't seems to be different every bout here which makes it a bit of a head f**k to train for sometimes.
In the bigger amateur divisions you have people who can KO their opponents and having power is still an advantage. In the smaller divisions you're not given enough time and opportunity to use power as a strategy. The less bodyweight you have the more time/opportunity you need to win by KO in my opinion. TKOs sometimes happen but often the eight counts are awarded for a flurry of punches rather than effective ones. I doubt as many pro bouts would be stopped that way.
monkey how could you say that? the rules are not even remotely the same, in amateur no technique is given aproval, ot is all agression and straight hits...no time to play hurt, or attack by drawing or even hook...it is knock him out or straight punches only...i doubt ameteur anything will help my boxing...i am too old to fight that way and i lay traps for my younger opponets which you never face as an ameteur . just even competion not that 19 year old that heals between rounds, you face the worst in pro and as far as ametuer you don't get tested all that much...i mean in 3 or 4 rounds, what do you get? ya gotta hit the deep water some time.........
Pretty easily,its ring timeQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Real ring time,not sparring
It counts now,your trainer has a chance to see what your made of when your scared.Most fighters arent "scared" in sparring,they know the trainer has some control over whats happening.
But when theres a crowd watching,and theres no real control,well you find things out.
That right there will save you from choking when theres a 1000 people who want to see a fight
On top of that,you can find a way to brush it off as,"It doesnt matter" if its amateur
Its a hell of a lot harder to brush that off once its on your pro-record
On top of that,as you say,you face the worst,all fighters develop little ticks they probably shouldnt,well not probably definitly,its hard for your trainer to see them all even in sparring,and definitly not on the heavy bag.
Amateurs are a way to find them