Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
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Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
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Originally Posted by blackmagesamurai
Out of the major heavyweight underdogs that caused great upsets who was the best.
Buster Douglas
Rahman
Braddock
Jess Willard
Brewster
ect...
I dont know if Jess Willard was actually an underdog. Prior to the fight, Johnson had spent 2 years in France getting drunk every day, and was in horrible shape. According to the book "Unforgivable Blackness" all the insiders pretty much knew that Johnson would lose to the next half way decent fighter he fought. Leading up to the match, there instead of picking an opponent, they believed they were picking the next heavyweight champion.
Good call lance,Promoter really Duped him into coming back to U.S and The way he was chased out of country based on cooked up MANN act conviction as employed against Johnson was a disgrace.
Agree also he was out of shape and the heat and a Mammoth Willard put in on him late.At first he accepted defeat and later came back with "blocking the sun from my eyes" protest.Is the book Resent ,sounds very revealing.need to find it.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
CC Mick...Great one....TBH I was only thinking of guys from Patterson on up for somereason....Max certainly shock the world
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
Louis really got Handeled throughout.Its one thing to Be upset via an errand Bomb but This boarderd on rnd by rnd drubbing.
I had seen interviews with Max some time ago and just plain felt for him.He spent alot of time refuting Nazi Party but came across like plain and simple nice guy.
CC mick how was this not mentioned previous?
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
Louis really got Handeled throughout.Its one thing to Be upset via an errand Bomb but This boarderd on rnd by rnd drubbing.
I had seen interviews with Max some time ago and just plain felt for him.He spent alot of time refuting Nazi Party but came across like plain and simple nice guy.
CC mick how was this not mentioned previous?
Cause' CMM didn't get here soon enough, that's why :tease-new:
Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
CC Mick...Great one....TBH I was only thinking of guys from Patterson on up for somereason....Max certainly shock the world
CC#819 Daxx.... Sometimes that happens when I see a list or a question in regards to something sometimes I'll just block out the old matchups and can only think of recent ones.
Funny how the mind works, when it wants to work. :P
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
Louis really got Handeled throughout.Its one thing to Be upset via an errand Bomb but This boarderd on rnd by rnd drubbing.
I had seen interviews with Max some time ago and just plain felt for him.He spent alot of time refuting Nazi Party but came across like plain and simple nice guy.
CC mick how was this not mentioned previous?
CC#92 Spicoli... Poor Max talk about being dragged into something by your country. :(
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Originally Posted by LEGION
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Schmeling anyone?
Anytime we talk about big underdogs/upsets I know everyone mentions Tyson BUT for me it's Max over Joe hands down.
When you have 2 countries behind a fight IMO it doesn't get any bigger then that I don't care what Don King and the odd makers say.
Louis really got Handeled throughout.Its one thing to Be upset via an errand Bomb but This boarderd on rnd by rnd drubbing.
I had seen interviews with Max some time ago and just plain felt for him.He spent alot of time refuting Nazi Party but came across like plain and simple nice guy.
CC mick how was this not mentioned previous?
Cause' CMM didn't get here soon enough, that's why :tease-new:
CC#225 LEGION for making me laugh... ;D
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CC back to you CMM. Unfortunately that's pretty much all I'm good for round' here ;D
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Buster Douglas over Tyson 42-1
Evander Holyfield over Tyson (first fight) 25-1
Clay over Liston 8-1
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Man imagine the money someone made off Douglas if he bet on him talk about bank my god.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Man imagine the money someone made off Douglas if he bet on him talk about bank my god.
Thanks to Buster I managed to secure alot of Capital with wise stock Picks and Lucrative
"off shore" Investments.Make your moneywork for you!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Doulglas on that night was not the one that punked out vs. Tucker.IMO could have beaten alot of top Heavys on this night.His cinderrella moment.
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If only i was old enough to put money on Douglas i mean imagine the money you could make if you were the big shot that put money on Douglas.
Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
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Originally Posted by blackmagesamurai
Out of the major heavyweight underdogs that caused great upsets who was the best.
Buster Douglas
Rahman
Braddock
Jess Willard
Brewster
ect...
Surely the worst fighter to ever create a major upset must be Ross Purrity.
Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
James J Corbett
Gene Tunney
Ezzard Charles (a middle/heavyweight!!!)
Max Schmeling
James Braddock
Muhammad Ali (an under dog in many of his large fights Liston/Foreman/Spinks2)
Evander Holyfield.
Re: Best Heavyweight underdogs
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Originally Posted by blackmagesamurai
Out of the major heavyweight underdogs that caused great upsets who was the best.
Buster Douglas
Rahman
Braddock
Jess Willard
Brewster
ect...
The first name on the list were my favorite HW underdogs.
Michael Bentt vs Tommy Morrison
Jesse Ferguson vs Ray Mercer 1
Mike Weaver vs Big John Tate
Mark Willis vs Greg Page 1
Gerrie Coetzee vs Michael Dokes
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson 1
Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson
Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson
Oliver McCall vs Lennox Lewis 1
Hasim Rahman vs Lennox Lewis 1
Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir Klitschko
Ross Purrity vs Wladimir Klitschko
James Braddock vs Max Baer
Max Schmeling vs Joe Louis 1
Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Liston 1
Leon Spinks vs Muhammad Ali 1
Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard
Ingemar Johansson vs Floyd Patterson 1, 5-1 underdog at the time i believe.
Jimmy Young vs George Foreman
Ken Norton vs Muhammad Ali 1
Lamon Brewster vs Wladimir Klitschko