Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by MAYWEATHER P4P#1
$8 million not £8 million though is that right???
Joe initially said he wanted 2.5 million pounds for the fight,thats roughly 5 million American
Now 8 is apparantly below his dignity
Right...so the previous scenario which saw Hopkins say he wanted $3 million four years ago, and then demand $6 million when he was offered what he demanded. This is just a bit of gamesmanship, oneupmanship and revenge getting back in the mix of things.
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Calzaghe is a prideful man, just the usual pre-fight postureing they will sign this. GBP hasnt missed the baoat yeat in promoting the best possible fights and finding a way to get it done
Doubt they get a Sou more
Theres also TV rights to consider
Hopkins/Wright was a PPV,and then got re-run on HBO,so you get a double dip there
Calzaghe/Kessler was a freebie on HBO and hasnt been re-run
Not to mention him turning down 3 million dollars more then he initially asked for,you think Hopkins doesnt consider that a slap in the face?
This isnt same Danish promoter with a champion nobodies heard of
Nobody who isnt desperate or naive takes Warrens terms
Well even so I mean Joe just Legitimized his stature of being the #1 or #2 168lber EVER, and a reigning 10 year champ. I think he deserves to balk at the offer just for pride if not anything else. I mean if he just took the offer like a tail wagging puppy it would kind of lessen his cause ;)
Look at it from Bernards point of view,he has no earthly reason to take this fight.
He's allready going down as one of the greats
He's allready beaten everyone they said he couldnt
Whats in it for him but $$$?
Hed never agree to the unification tournament
Dangit
Well hell never get to the final fight
Dangit
We he cant possibly beat Tito
Dangit
Well he cant possible go up in weight at his age and beat Tarver
Dangit
Well Wrights one of the best defensive technicians of all time,no shot
Dangit
He's offered up more then enough money,hell GB has offered up 3 million more then Joe asked for,Joe doesnt take it thats his problem.
Props to Joe for finally fighting Kessler,but hey made Mikkel jump through hoops to get there.
Bernard isnt big on jumping through hoops
Well Reverend your a trainer so you shouldnt be so naive about the nature of negoiating anything let alone a boxing match. Its all part of the business, its not llike a drive Thru at Mickey D's alot goes into making these big ones happen ;)
I just know Warren well enough that he'll think just because he was able to strong arm Kessler's camp,he'll get away with it again.
Expect Joe to either take another fight at home,and expect to hear a bunch of BS Warren leaks.
But dont expect this fight to happen
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
Calzaghe should have left Warren like Naz and Hatton did.
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Joe and Warren talked the smack
Joe said he wanted 5
GB threw down the gauntlet by saying,"Fine, you want 5,here's 8"
Joe had no intention of fighting Hopkins and is trying to find a way to squirm out of it,that the British press will buy,and since they are such duitiful servants for Warren,they will report it,just to keep their "inside access"
I wont be suprised to see Jones/Calzaghe though,Roy needs a big fight to put himself on the top of the pile again.Hes desperate enough to let Warren have his way more
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If Calzaghe lost to a 43 year old Hopkins surely it would damage is legacy abit.They would say as soon as he fights an elite fighter he loses am i right??
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joes playing his hand here, hes already sold on the fight hes just trying his luck and seeing if GBP can dish out maybe another mill.
:coolclick: #2188.
Oscar can, has, & will...especially for this match up.
The money that Oscar can bleed outta this one would be match would be tuff to add up.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Whenever you hear about offers, and bids and all that think of it like a hand of Texas Hold' Em you gotta play it smart and get as much money as you can in the pot.
Eggs-zackree.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joe knows hes got the upper hand even over Hopkins.
Agreed...again...100%.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I really mean that B-Hop is the more recognizable name in the states but as of late we are more impressed with Joe then Hop.
Errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm...not sure I can 100% agree on that one.
Yes...he has been impressive...but I aint sure I can say that I'm more impressed. I'm impressed with Joe & he did well against Kessler & against Lacy & handled those in between...but in the end...he still aint a Hopkins.
Now that being said...I believe that Calzaghe should be considered a GOAT in the end...especially if/when he beats the Nard...& I believe that he will.
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Thats the problem with todays fighters, a bunch of spoiled brats, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Jones, Delahoya, mayweather, the list goes on a big bunch of babies. only the fans suffer.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joes playing his hand here, hes already sold on the fight hes just trying his luck and seeing if GBP can dish out maybe another mill.
:coolclick: #2188.
Oscar can, has, & will...especially for this match up.
The money that Oscar can bleed outta this one would be match would be tuff to add up.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Whenever you hear about offers, and bids and all that think of it like a hand of Texas Hold' Em you gotta play it smart and get as much money as you can in the pot.
Eggs-zackree.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joe knows hes got the upper hand even over Hopkins.
Agreed...again...100%.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I really mean that B-Hop is the more recognizable name in the states but as of late we are more impressed with Joe then Hop.
Errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm...not sure I can 100% agree on that one.
Yes...he has been impressive...but I aint sure I can say that I'm more impressed. I'm impressed with Joe & he did well against Kessler & against Lacy & handled those in between...but in the end...he still aint a Hopkins.
Now that being said...I believe that Calzaghe should be considered a GOAT in the end...especially if/when he beats the Nard...& I believe that he will.
Hopkins/Wright=PPV
Calzeghe/Kessler=Freebie on HBO
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joes playing his hand here, hes already sold on the fight hes just trying his luck and seeing if GBP can dish out maybe another mill.
:coolclick: #2188.
Oscar can, has, & will...especially for this match up.
The money that Oscar can bleed outta this one would be match would be tuff to add up.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Whenever you hear about offers, and bids and all that think of it like a hand of Texas Hold' Em you gotta play it smart and get as much money as you can in the pot.
Eggs-zackree.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joe knows hes got the upper hand even over Hopkins.
Agreed...again...100%.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I really mean that B-Hop is the more recognizable name in the states but as of late we are more impressed with Joe then Hop.
Errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm...not sure I can 100% agree on that one.
Yes...he has been impressive...but I aint sure I can say that I'm more impressed. I'm impressed with Joe & he did well against Kessler & against Lacy & handled those in between...but in the end...he still aint a Hopkins.
Now that being said...I believe that Calzaghe should be considered a GOAT in the end...especially if/when he beats the Nard...& I believe that he will.
Hopkins/Wright=PPV
Calzeghe/Kessler=Freebie on HBO
The calzaghe kessler fight played about 5 times on all the hbo channels during the week... as much as i didn't like him before i'd pay to watch him again not so much b-hop anymore
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So Calzaghe dismisses a fight with both Hopkins and Woods. I'm not surprised. Calzaghe next fight will be against some one along the lines of Silvio Branco or the recently defeated Tito Mendoza. It's what Calzaghe has been doing his whole career.
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by getupkid2004
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joes playing his hand here, hes already sold on the fight hes just trying his luck and seeing if GBP can dish out maybe another mill.
:coolclick: #2188.
Oscar can, has, & will...especially for this match up.
The money that Oscar can bleed outta this one would be match would be tuff to add up.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Whenever you hear about offers, and bids and all that think of it like a hand of Texas Hold' Em you gotta play it smart and get as much money as you can in the pot.
Eggs-zackree.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joe knows hes got the upper hand even over Hopkins.
Agreed...again...100%.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I really mean that B-Hop is the more recognizable name in the states but as of late we are more impressed with Joe then Hop.
Errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm...not sure I can 100% agree on that one.
Yes...he has been impressive...but I aint sure I can say that I'm more impressed. I'm impressed with Joe & he did well against Kessler & against Lacy & handled those in between...but in the end...he still aint a Hopkins.
Now that being said...I believe that Calzaghe should be considered a GOAT in the end...especially if/when he beats the Nard...& I believe that he will.
Hopkins/Wright=PPV
Calzeghe/Kessler=Freebie on HBO
The calzaghe kessler fight played about 5 times on all the hbo channels during the week... as much as i didn't like him before i'd pay to watch him again not so much b-hop anymore
You and about 5 others
Holyfields fights are PPV's,freaking Bates/Golata was a PPV
Calzeghe draws Boxing after dark,Espn intrest in the states
Face it Hopkins is the name in that fight,and he's offered Joe 3 million dollars more then he asked for,and 2 million more then Hopkins was "reportedly"(the reporters in question being Joe Calzeghe and Frank Warren) asking for,and according to that camp 6 mill was unacceptable.
Its just Frank Warren BS
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looks like this fight will 100% happen now then...
SEE:
pre Mayweather - DLH announcement
pre Mayweather - Hatton announcement
pre Calzaghe - Lacy announcement
pre Calzaghe - Kessler announcement
there where massive ho hars about these fights on fighter ducking the other offers and counter offers etc but they all got made.... strange world boxing init ;)
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Originally Posted by Saddo
looks like this fight will 100% happen now then...
SEE:
pre Mayweather - DLH announcement
pre Mayweather - Hatton announcement
pre Calzaghe - Lacy announcement
pre Calzaghe - Kessler announcement
there where massive ho hars about these fights on fighter ducking the other offers and counter offers etc but they all got made.... strange world boxing init ;)
I also remember Pre Calzaghe-Johnson announcement. 3 times
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by Saddo
looks like this fight will 100% happen now then...
SEE:
pre Mayweather - DLH announcement
pre Mayweather - Hatton announcement
pre Calzaghe - Lacy announcement
pre Calzaghe - Kessler announcement
there where massive ho hars about these fights on fighter ducking the other offers and counter offers etc but they all got made.... strange world boxing init ;)
Jones/Calzeghe ever happen
How about Hopkins/Jones
The only reason Calzeghe/Kessler happened is Kessler's promoter bent over and kissed his own a$$ to make it happen
Re: Calzaghe rejects Hopkins offer.....
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by getupkid2004
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joes playing his hand here, hes already sold on the fight hes just trying his luck and seeing if GBP can dish out maybe another mill.
:coolclick: #2188.
Oscar can, has, & will...especially for this match up.
The money that Oscar can bleed outta this one would be match would be tuff to add up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Whenever you hear about offers, and bids and all that think of it like a hand of Texas Hold' Em you gotta play it smart and get as much money as you can in the pot.
Eggs-zackree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Joe knows hes got the upper hand even over Hopkins.
Agreed...again...100%.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I really mean that B-Hop is the more recognizable name in the states but as of late we are more impressed with Joe then Hop.
Errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm...not sure I can 100% agree on that one.
Yes...he has been impressive...but I aint sure I can say that I'm more impressed. I'm impressed with Joe & he did well against Kessler & against Lacy & handled those in between...but in the end...he still aint a Hopkins.
Now that being said...I believe that Calzaghe should be considered a GOAT in the end...especially if/when he beats the Nard...& I believe that he will.
Hopkins/Wright=PPV
Calzeghe/Kessler=Freebie on HBO
The calzaghe kessler fight played about 5 times on all the hbo channels during the week... as much as i didn't like him before i'd pay to watch him again not so much b-hop anymore
You and about 5 others
Holyfields fights are PPV's,freaking Bates/Golata was a PPV
Calzeghe draws Boxing after dark,Espn intrest in the states
Face it Hopkins is the name in that fight,and he's offered Joe 3 million dollars more then he asked for,and 2 million more then Hopkins was "reportedly"(the reporters in question being Joe Calzeghe and Frank Warren) asking for,and according to that camp 6 mill was unacceptable.
Its just Frank Warren BS
he may be the name but he's still not a draw especially after watching him fight winky wright at least calzaghe puts on a show worth watching