Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Originally Posted by MAYWEATHER P4P#1
Mayweather fought for his first genuine world title the WBC superfeatherweight title in only his 18th fight and then the names on his record went like this.
1.Genaro Hernandez (WBC superfeather weight champ)
2.Angel Manfredy
3.Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios
4.Justin Juuko
5.Carlos Gerena
6.Gregorio Vargas
7.Emanuel Augustus
8.Diego Corrales
9.Carlos Hernandez
10.Jesus Chavez
11.Jose Luis Castillo (WBC lightweight champ)
12.Jose Luis Castillo
13.Victoriano Sosa
14.Phillip N'dou
15.Demarcus Corley
16.Henry Bruseles
17.Arturo Gatti (WBC Light welterweight champ)
18.Sharmba Mitchell
19.Zab Judah (IBF welterweight champ)
20.Carlos Manuel Baldomir (WBC welterweight champ)
21.Oscar De La Hoya (WBC Light middleweight champ)
Hatton fought for his first genuine world title the IBF light welterweight in his 39th fight and from then the names on his record went like this.
1.Kostya Tszyu (IBF Light welterweight champ)
2.Carlos Maussa (WBA Light welterweight champ)
3.Luis Collazo (WBA welterweight champ)
4.Juan Urango (IBF Light welterweight champ)
5.Jose Luis Castillo
Floyd has definately mixed in the better company nobody can argue that.
Good point
But then you could argue that....
Kostya Tszyu beats any 140 fighter that Floyd has fought.
Castillo is Mayweather's best opponent in the 135-140 range and Hatton's beat him far more impressivley.
and
Collazo would beat any fighter Floyd has fought at 147.
It's irrelevant that Hatton has needed more fights to get to the top. That was just Frank Warren's plan. It obviously worked because he is finally going in with Mayweather and i cant' wait.
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The Castillo Hatton fought were just a shadow of the Castillo Mayweather fought.
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Originally Posted by MAYWEATHER P4P#1
The Castillo Hatton fought were just a shadow of the Castillo Mayweather fought.
Whilst that may have echoes of truth it still must be noted that Castillo was teak tough and had never been handled that way in his entire career
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Originally Posted by MAYWEATHER P4P#1
The Castillo Hatton fought were just a shadow of the Castillo Mayweather fought.
Whilst that may have echoes of truth it still must be noted that Castillo was teak tough and had never been handled that way in his entire career
Cesar Soto stopped him in 2
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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The Castillo Hatton fought were just a shadow of the Castillo Mayweather fought.
This comment annoys me a little. There was no evidence before this fight that Castillo was shot. Hatton manhandled him and KO'ed him. he did what no other had previously done. The comment you make, which I acknowledge has been made by others puts down a legitimate achievement.
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The Castillo Hatton fought were just a shadow of the Castillo Mayweather fought.
Whilst that may have echoes of truth it still must be noted that Castillo was teak tough and had never been handled that way in his entire career
Cesar Soto stopped him in 2
He stopped him on a cut. You must have got that off boxrec.
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Right he beat Kostya for top spot at lightwelter but lets not forget Kostya was 35 had only fought once in 23 month leading upto the fight but it was a great result for Hatton.Then he fought Maussa a man who was lucky to have a world title Hatton won but since fighting Hatton Maussa has lost twice in as many fights his last by Ko in round 1.Then came Collazo for the WBA welterweight championship to make Hatton a 2 weight champ Hatton won but struggled down the stretch many thought Collazo won the fight.Then came Urango a tough but unproven fighter for Hattons old IBF lightwelter title Hatton won but started running out of gas and ideas down the stretch again.Castillo was next up but in my opinion and many other peoples Castillo was on the downward slope infact very near the bottom Hatton produced a great win on paper KO4.Right the question is Hatton did'nt fight for a genuine title or a top flight fighter till fight 39 when he beat Kostya in his last 4 fights he has fought 3 world champs but not top flight then Castillo is Hatton really ready for Mayweather and can he really win??
Some valid points. Would you care to comment on Mayweathers recent opponents i.e: Over the hill Shamba Mitchell, the ploding Baldimore, Zab Judah who lost his last fight, blowing out of his a*** by round 7 Delahoya, laughably over the hill Auturo gatti.. Oh well I suppose he did beat those all time greats Henry Brussels, DeMarcus Corely and Phillip N'Duo!
The bottom line is, Hatton has never faced anybody like Mayweather and Mayweather has never faced anybody like Hatton. Theat's why we call it a MEGA FIGHT
Oscar De La Hoya was still a good fighter and Mayweather moved up to a weightclass he has never fought at before, i think you should give Mayweather more credit considering alot of people on this forum saw it 50-50 fight.
Corley and Gatti were good names at that time Corley was former WBO World champion and only lost his title to Judah by close SD prior to Mayweather fight.
And Gatti was on a nice winning streak beating guys like, Jesse James Leija, 22-0 Leonard Dorin, 32-0 Gianluca Branco, plus two victories over Ward.
Mayweather has never faced anybody like Hatton. Theat's why we call it a MEGA FIGHT
Yes he has, Jesus Chavez.
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Castillo had never been KO or been knocked down in his entire career going into Hatton fight he may not have been at his peak but Hatton still deserves more credit than he is getting.
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Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Correct CC Sweet Pea
:coolclick: back i just remember everyone on this forum saying it was 50-50 fight no way is Castillo getting dropped it will for certain go the distance etc. Even i thought it would go the full distance, Hatton stopped Castillo in the most impressive way he could of and i just feel some people are being unfair on Hatton.
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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Right he beat Kostya for top spot at lightwelter but lets not forget Kostya was 35 had only fought once in 23 month leading upto the fight but it was a great result for Hatton.Then he fought Maussa a man who was lucky to have a world title Hatton won but since fighting Hatton Maussa has lost twice in as many fights his last by Ko in round 1.Then came Collazo for the WBA welterweight championship to make Hatton a 2 weight champ Hatton won but struggled down the stretch many thought Collazo won the fight.Then came Urango a tough but unproven fighter for Hattons old IBF lightwelter title Hatton won but started running out of gas and ideas down the stretch again.Castillo was next up but in my opinion and many other peoples Castillo was on the downward slope infact very near the bottom Hatton produced a great win on paper KO4.Right the question is Hatton did'nt fight for a genuine title or a top flight fighter till fight 39 when he beat Kostya in his last 4 fights he has fought 3 world champs but not top flight then Castillo is Hatton really ready for Mayweather and can he really win??
Sugar Ray Leonard hadnt boxed for three years before he beat hagler. Some lay off.
yes massau was stopped in the first, but he had gone the distance the fight before and the opponent who stopped him is no bum. remember hatton gave him a constant beating.
Against Collazo, Hatton put on extra weight by eating junk food to bulk up. Something he wont be doing this time and he took the bout on a few weeks notice.
Against Urango he totally outboxed an unbeaten opponent losing only one round.
And as for Castillio hatton did what no other boxer has done to him, he knocked him down and stopped him.
tyszu hasnt boxed since. look at him after the Hatton bout and you dont need to ask why.
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10 years as a pro 43 fights and only 4 genuine world title fights not that good in my eyes achievment wise.
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10 years as a pro 43 fights and only 4 genuine world title fights not that good in my eyes achievment wise.
Wow that sounds like a Frank Warren quote.
So I take it that means your impressed with Calzaghe for having 20 genuine world title fights? ;D Your reasoning is so easy to pick apart at times, I'll never know why you hate them both so much. Did one of them run off with a previous girlfriend or something?
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I dont hate Ricky Hatton i like him as a person i dont like the way he fights with all that holding and i think he is abit overhyped.
Re: Quick question about Hatton
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I dont hate Ricky Hatton i like him as a person i dont like the way he fights with all that holding and i think he is abit overhyped.
A come foward banger that never stops coming and has never lost is over hyped ???
The fact is neither of these fighters have "REALLY" been tested with skills that match there own
Are you telling me your not REALLY looking forward to this fight like the rest of us ?