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Jesse Feliciano against Cintron...
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Jesse Feliciano against Cintron...
That be true!!
My hand is broken!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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Colin Lynes against Witter
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Are there any boxers out there you saw loose against a big name but eventhough they lost you think they looked better than before and look forward to see them fight again?
I thought about this after seeing Hatton loose against Mayweather. Sure, ok ok ok, he lost, I know I know ::** but still, I think he didn't look THAT bad as many thought considering he was also going up in weight. Hatton won a fan right here 8) .
I cannot believe I'm the first to mention Jermain taylor. He looked better in his loss to Pavlik than he has in his 4 previous fights.
You're not the 1st, VD said JT 1st if you look at the second post :tease-new:
Yeah but nobody listens to that clown do they? ;) ;D
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Spinks and ouma against Taylor.
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In ways Miranda against Abraham because everyone got shit scared of him after that fight, but the hype has died out now...
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WInky vs Fargas hands down for me...
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Azumah Nelson Vs. Salvador Sanchez
Spicoli, I'm interested in knowing where you had seen Azumah prior to the Salvador fight. I don't think I've ever chatted with someone who had seen Azumah prior to that fight. Or are you playing this one by what you saw years later. If you did see Azumah prior to the Salvador fight could you recommend any fights pre-Salvador?
Thanks.
I'm gonna disagree here with some on your list.... So you know the matchups I will list are performances in which the fighters had already looked good in before loosing in the fights you listed.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Evander Holyfield vs Riddick Bowe 1
There is no way Evander looked better on that night then on the night he fought De Leon. For starters he got hit waaaay to much against Bowe against De Leon he was just an animal....
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
I think this ones the most interesting one. Being that Pernell had looked great since his amateur days. I would also say he looked much better when he beat Santana. Much much better...
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Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez 1
This ones a tough one and heres why I think it is....
Mel started off superb I mean JCC just wasn't landing anything meaningful for the 1st half of the bout. But he let himself slip in the second part of the fight. His performance against James was decent but he wasn't wining as impressive as he was against JCC. What I think makes it a slitghlty better performance was that he was able to finish off James. I could def. see tho the JCC fight being a better performance.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Thomas Hearns vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1
The destruction of Pipino IMO was a far better performance for Hearns I think he looked much better in that fight then against SRL. I don't even think Pipino put a glove on him that night.
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Antonio Margarito vs Paul Williams
I gotta disagree here 1st I didn't think he looked better then before in that fight... For starters he looked damn! rusty. Started off waaay to late and just didn't have that intenstity that I had seen before. For this one I'd say that his dominance over Diaz was a much better performance then the Williams one. So IMO Margarito had already looked good before that fight.
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Ruben Olivares vs Alexis Arguello
No way man... I'm sorry if my post is coming off like this but I just completely disagree with it. I'm not sure if maybe you misread the question on the thread but Ruben had been looking great for years now prior to this bout. There are 2 performances that are head and shoulders above the rest. The 1st one being when he beat Rose for the World Titles and the second when he beat Kanazawa in the rematch. What a brilliant performance that was by Ruben....
Just my opinions here it doesn't make them right but just something to think about... Hey! someone might read my post and will completely disagree with my entire post... :-\
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Ive been a bit of a Clottey fan since seeing him loose to Margarito.
Does that count?
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Originally Posted by violent demise#1 groupie
Azumah Nelson Vs. Salvador Sanchez
Spicoli, I'm interested in knowing where you had seen Azumah prior to the Salvador fight. I don't think I've ever chatted with someone who had seen Azumah prior to that fight. Or are you playing this one by what you saw years later. If you did see Azumah prior to the Salvador fight could you recommend any fights pre-Salvador?
Thanks.
I'm gonna disagree here with some on your list.... So you know the matchups I will list are performances in which the fighters had already looked good in before loosing in the fights you listed.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Evander Holyfield vs Riddick Bowe 1
There is no way Evander looked better on that night then on the night he fought De Leon. For starters he got hit waaaay to much against Bowe against De Leon he was just an animal....
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
I think this ones the most interesting one. Being that Pernell had looked great since his amateur days. I would also say he looked much better when he beat Santana. Much much better...
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez 1
This ones a tough one and heres why I think it is....
Mel started off superb I mean JCC just wasn't landing anything meaningful for the 1st half of the bout. But he let himself slip in the second part of the fight. His performance against James was decent but he wasn't wining as impressive as he was against JCC. What I think makes it a slitghlty better performance was that he was able to finish off James. I could def. see tho the JCC fight being a better performance.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Thomas Hearns vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1
The destruction of Pipino IMO was a far better performance for Hearns I think he looked much better in that fight then against SRL. I don't even think Pipino put a glove on him that night.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Antonio Margarito vs Paul Williams
I gotta disagree here 1st I didn't think he looked better then before in that fight... For starters he looked damn! rusty. Started off waaay to late and just didn't have that intenstity that I had seen before. For this one I'd say that his dominance over Diaz was a much better performance then the Williams one. So IMO Margarito had already looked good before that fight.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Ruben Olivares vs Alexis Arguello
No way man... I'm sorry if my post is coming off like this but I just completely disagree with it. I'm not sure if maybe you misread the question on the thread but Ruben had been looking great for years now prior to this bout. There are 2 performances that are head and shoulders above the rest. The 1st one being when he beat Rose for the World Titles and the second when he beat Kanazawa in the rematch. What a brilliant performance that was by Ruben....
Just my opinions here it doesn't make them right but just something to think about... Hey! someone might read my post and will completely disagree with my entire post... :-\
There is no way Evander looked better on that night then on the night he fought De Leon. For starters he got hit waaaay to much against Bowe against De Leon he was just an animal....
It was the first time Holyfield was behind in a fight, and his 10th round performance is possibly one of the greatest comeback's i've ever seen in a single round. Maybe Holyfield had better dominant performances like in rematch with Qawi. But in this fight Holyfield was just amazing, i know he had to dig deep in his first fight with Qawi but i can't even put it into words every time i see this fight it gives me goosebumps.
I think this ones the most interesting one. Being that Pernell had looked great since his amateur days. I would also say he looked much better when he beat Santana. Much much better...
It was his first fight against elite fighter, i think out boxing a very respected Lightweight champion like Ramirez when Whitaker only had 15 pro fights is more impressive.
This ones a tough one and heres why I think it is....
Mel started off superb I mean JCC just wasn't landing anything meaningful for the 1st half of the bout. But he let himself slip in the second part of the fight. His performance against James was decent but he wasn't wining as impressive as he was against JCC. What I think makes it a slitghlty better performance was that he was able to finish off James. I could def. see tho the JCC fight being a better performance.
I agree i think how he handle James Buddy McGirt is for certain debatable on better performances, but at that time Chavez had an aura of invincibility and no one expected Taylor to out box Chavez as easily as he was doing it, so on that i rate it slightly higher.
I gotta disagree here 1st I didn't think he looked better then before in that fight... For starters he looked damn! rusty. Started off waaay to late and just didn't have that intenstity that I had seen before. For this one I'd say that his dominance over Diaz was a much better performance then the Williams one. So IMO Margarito had already looked good before that fight.
I can agree with you on this one.
No way man... I'm sorry if my post is coming off like this but I just completely disagree with it. I'm not sure if maybe you misread the question on the thread but Ruben had been looking great for years now prior to this bout. There are 2 performances that are head and shoulders above the rest. The 1st one being when he beat Rose for the World Titles and the second when he beat Kanazawa in the rematch. What a brilliant performance that was by Ruben....
Just my opinions here it doesn't make them right but just something to think about... Hey! someone might read my post and will completely disagree with my entire post...
I understand what your saying but imo out boxing an ATG like Arguello after 12 rounds is superb, thats why i rate it higher because of the name Arguello is makes it that little bit more special, he was superb that night if only he didn't use up everything he had in the 12th maybe the outcome could of been different.
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Ive been a bit of a Clottey fan since seeing him loose to Margarito.
Does that count?
Well I had only seen the Baldomir fight prior to that so for me yes he did look much better on that night.
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Not quite inkeeping with the thread title but In Jin Chi made me want to watch him again after losing to Morales. Not sure if he improved any but he did win a world title so that has to count for sumink.
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Barrera vs. Morales is the one that immediately comes to mind.
Also, how about Golota vs. Bowe? Golota lost the fight because of the DQ, but he had been killing Bowe throughout the fight.
Quartey vs. De La Hoya.
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Originally Posted by violent demise#1 groupie
Azumah Nelson Vs. Salvador Sanchez
Spicoli, I'm interested in knowing where you had seen Azumah prior to the Salvador fight. I don't think I've ever chatted with someone who had seen Azumah prior to that fight. Or are you playing this one by what you saw years later. If you did see Azumah prior to the Salvador fight could you recommend any fights pre-Salvador?
Thanks.
I'm gonna disagree here with some on your list.... So you know the matchups I will list are performances in which the fighters had already looked good in before loosing in the fights you listed.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Evander Holyfield vs Riddick Bowe 1
There is no way Evander looked better on that night then on the night he fought De Leon. For starters he got hit waaaay to much against Bowe against De Leon he was just an animal....
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
I think this ones the most interesting one. Being that Pernell had looked great since his amateur days. I would also say he looked much better when he beat Santana. Much much better...
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez 1
This ones a tough one and heres why I think it is....
Mel started off superb I mean JCC just wasn't landing anything meaningful for the 1st half of the bout. But he let himself slip in the second part of the fight. His performance against James was decent but he wasn't wining as impressive as he was against JCC. What I think makes it a slitghlty better performance was that he was able to finish off James. I could def. see tho the JCC fight being a better performance.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Thomas Hearns vs Sugar Ray Leonard 1
The destruction of Pipino IMO was a far better performance for Hearns I think he looked much better in that fight then against SRL. I don't even think Pipino put a glove on him that night.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Antonio Margarito vs Paul Williams
I gotta disagree here 1st I didn't think he looked better then before in that fight... For starters he looked damn! rusty. Started off waaay to late and just didn't have that intenstity that I had seen before. For this one I'd say that his dominance over Diaz was a much better performance then the Williams one. So IMO Margarito had already looked good before that fight.
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Ruben Olivares vs Alexis Arguello
No way man... I'm sorry if my post is coming off like this but I just completely disagree with it. I'm not sure if maybe you misread the question on the thread but Ruben had been looking great for years now prior to this bout. There are 2 performances that are head and shoulders above the rest. The 1st one being when he beat Rose for the World Titles and the second when he beat Kanazawa in the rematch. What a brilliant performance that was by Ruben....
Just my opinions here it doesn't make them right but just something to think about... Hey! someone might read my post and will completely disagree with my entire post... :-\
The destruction of Pipino IMO was a far better performance for Hearns I think he looked much better in that fight then against SRL. I don't even think Pipino put a glove on him that night.
I missed this quote my bad, Hearns put a masterclass on one of the best Welterweight's of all time in one of the famous fights in boxing history i think its just that bit more special. his destruction of Cuevas was amazing when he landed that right hand it looked like Cuevas had been shot with a shotgun, it depends on what your taste is, a boxing masterclass or short quick destruction.