Sugar Ray Robinson Welterweight fight Videos....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

For those who have never seen 'Bright Lights, Dark Shadows' I'd strongly recommend you either look for it online and or buy it.
Great documentary. :)

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That;s the documentary I was thinking about Mick. Absolutely superb insight into the Great fighter. :)

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

For those who have never seen 'Bright Lights, Dark Shadows' I'd strongly recommend you either look for it online and or buy it.
Great documentary. :)

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That;s the documentary I was thinking about Mick. Absolutely superb insight into the Great fighter. :)

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Spot on Welsh some great footage in that doc.

Just checked and this fight wasn't at Welterweight. Robinson weighted 156½ while Van Dam was the Dutch Middleweight Champion.

So still no clips of Robinson at his Greatest in the Welterweight division exist. :(

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

Just checked and this fight wasn't at Welterweight. Robinson weighted 156½ while Van Dam was the Dutch Middleweight Champion.

So still no clips of Robinson at his Greatest in the Welterweight division exist. :(

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Great research there Welsh.... :)

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

Just checked and this fight wasn't at Welterweight. Robinson weighted 156½ while Van Dam was the Dutch Middleweight Champion.

So still no clips of Robinson at his Greatest in the Welterweight division exist. :(

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Great research there Welsh.... :)

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Don't know why youtube had it listed as a ww fight for robinson :-\...never bothered to recheck it on boxrec

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

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Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez

Wish there was full fights of Robinson at Welterweight, would love to see his fights at Welterweight.

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That was when he was at his best and according to a recent documentary on the man, none were recorded. So this clip is rare, rare, rare. ;D

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IT was wrong, it obviously was recorded or these clips wouldn't have been made, I've seen a few of his fights on a project real that my friend bought from a guy who used to run a cinema back when in New York.

MY bad the cinema guy was from here,Edmonton.

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He was something special, but those double, tripple left hooks would be easy to block. Its more his stiff jab counter left hook, and hidden right cross that you have to worry about ;D.. I would still be interested how he would do against a good jabber because Robinson didn't really use any defense except footwork.

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179 guys out there will disagree with you...Including a fair amount of HOF fighters

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Like Lamotta, or Turpin? or Fulmer, wow what great fighters... they are definitely the fastest, strongest, most technical fighters I've ever seen... not. They were tough, but there were some guys at Welterweight who could box and gave Robinson a hell of a time.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I don't know if its the quality of the film or what, but I don't think I've ever seen a fighter throw punches that quickly. That was impressive.

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ACtually by that time they still had problems capturing fast movements so it appears a little faster than normal, but young Roy JOnes Jr. threw lefts hook like that, and Meldrick Taylor, Ray Leonard, and Shane Mosley could all throw combinations like that as well.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He was something special, but those double, tripple left hooks would be easy to block. Its more his stiff jab counter left hook, and hidden right cross that you have to worry about ;D.. I would still be interested how he would do against a good jabber because Robinson didn't really use any defense except footwork.

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179 guys out there will disagree with you...Including a fair amount of HOF fighters

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Like Lamotta, or Turpin? or Fulmer, wow what great fighters... they are definitely the fastest, strongest, most technical fighters I've ever seen... not. They were tough, but there were some guys at Welterweight who could box and gave Robinson a hell of a time.

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As usual when someone comes up with a good counter point to one of your post you try to throw it off track...where did anyone say noone ever gave Robinson trouble?...Im sorry where was that?.....Stop looking on the post in the thread because no one said that it was just another case of Taeth changing words around to fit what he wants them to....

I think the whole point was you stated that Robinsons hook would be useless against a good jabber...and the reply was 179 (it is actually 173 my mistake)...would disagree...so where does LaMotta or anyone specific come in?...

By the way...I have a 6yr old that says something then follows it up with....Not...so grow up and post again when you don't need your nose wiped and diapers changed

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by CFH

I don't know if its the quality of the film or what, but I don't think I've ever seen a fighter throw punches that quickly. That was impressive.

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ACtually by that time they still had problems capturing fast movements so it appears a little faster than normal, but young Roy JOnes Jr. threw lefts hook like that, and Meldrick Taylor, Ray Leonard, and Shane Mosley could all throw combinations like that as well.

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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I've never actually seen a M. Taylor fight unfortunately, but I'll have to check him out.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

MY bad the cinema guy was from here,Edmonton.

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You live in Edmonton? That's not too far, relatively speaking, from where I live in BC.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

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Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez

Wish there was full fights of Robinson at Welterweight, would love to see his fights at Welterweight.

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That was when he was at his best and according to a recent documentary on the man, none were recorded. So this clip is rare, rare, rare. ;D

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IT was wrong, it obviously was recorded or these clips wouldn't have been made, I've seen a few of his fights on a project real that my friend bought from a guy who used to run a cinema back when in New York.

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You've missed the point completely. Welterweight fights of Sugar Rays don't exist the fight shown in this clip was not a Welterweight fight.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

Poetry in motion. LOL; love the way the ref helped him to his corner. Is that called a dragging 8 count? ;D

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Yeah mate I was loving that ;D

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He was something special, but those double, tripple left hooks would be easy to block. Its more his stiff jab counter left hook, and hidden right cross that you have to worry about ;D.. I would still be interested how he would do against a good jabber because Robinson didn't really use any defense except footwork.

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179 guys out there will disagree with you...Including a fair amount of HOF fighters

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Like Lamotta, or Turpin? or Fulmer, wow what great fighters... they are definitely the fastest, strongest, most technical fighters I've ever seen... not. They were tough, but there were some guys at Welterweight who could box and gave Robinson a hell of a time.

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As usual when someone comes up with a good counter point to one of your post you try to throw it off track...where did anyone say noone ever gave Robinson trouble?...Im sorry where was that?.....Stop looking on the post in the thread because no one said that it was just another case of Taeth changing words around to fit what he wants them to....

I think the whole point was you stated that Robinsons hook would be useless against a good jabber...and the reply was 179 (it is actually 173 my mistake)...would disagree...so where does LaMotta or anyone specific come in?...

By the way...I have a 6yr old that says something then follows it up with....Not...so grow up and post again when you don't need your nose wiped and diapers changed

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Me grow up? Your the one who flew off the handle lol, I didn't know which part of my comment you said 179 guys disagree with his defence? I brought Lamotta, Turpin, and Fulmer into it because they all hit Robinson pretty easily. Secondly, there was no correlation between me saying throwing those three hooks wouldn't be effective against somebody with good defence and me saying I would like to see how Robinson does against a good jabbing boxer like Leonard. What I was saying is because Robinson didn't really use his hands for defense almost at all I wonder how he would do against somebody like Leonard who used his hands to block shots and he was as quick as Robinson. Also last but not least you didn't read the other part of what I wrote because you lost your temper and didn't bother to read... I said that Robinson's jab, cross and counter left hook, off his opponents jab usually, were his money punches. Maybe you should chill out, I am not trying to just come in and insult you, but your taking this way too personally, and you act like its a sin for people to share their own opinion. If you don't feel like arguing then ignore me or stfu and take it like a man.

LMAO! Sugar hit him, knocked him down and then leap frogged him.
He sure does look a lot like Shane Mosley up there or should I say Shane reminds me of Robinson.

LOL at Luke van dam? His corner had to call a tow truck to haul him back to his corner. At first I thought that was the ref helping him back.

Great vid :)