Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by Bukom Battler
Never mind Williams and Margarito. If Clottey is his mandatory I do not think he should look past this challenge. Clottey may or may not beat him but either way he deserves more respect than being over looked by Cintron. It is a losable fight for Cintron in my opinion.
Truth is I will say it before and will again when concerning Clottey...I will not say people duck him because I don't believe it is true but I have always said he is a fighter guys will try to avoid if there are other fights out there and no fights with bigger money either....Clottey is a tough tough guy and is an opponent that provides you with everything to lose and nothing to gain...Even if you beat him you had to work hard at it...and lets be honest if you are champion and have a choice between facing Clottey for $750,000 or Gomez, Judah or Bonsu for the same paycheck where are you going?....The guy whose only losses was a DQ in a fight against Baldomir that he was winning comfortably and against Margarito who he was winning against until he hurt his hand (Legit hurt)...not to mention Clottey has never been hurt in a fight or the other choices?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
Again see above
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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Daxx Kahn
Me Personally would like to see Margarito/Cintron 2...Have Tony take the IBF belt the him and Williams have a rematch...I know Tony would be more then happy to have a unifaction bout
Good call Daxx,My exact wish list.Cintron needs to be put on the spot and Publically Hammered like a nail.This rematch with Williams should Happen ASAP.
Honestly,This is who and what I was speaking of last night in the "lame Excuses" thread.Private Snowball (Cintrons new name) and His lame Oscar award worthy rolling around on the canvas act.
I thought Cintron would turn over a new leaf with Steward but I guess I was wrong :-\.....LOL Private Snowball
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Originally Posted by uwey
Lets bring up Cotto then. Tall Paul will fight him. Who is his next fight. It dont matter we are going Belt collecting. The Margo comment was good but he already beat him and he has no BELT.Clottey either. There are enough Champs to fight Tall Paul and Margo, so they will have to met in the end. Im not saying Tall Paul cant lose but lets start fighting an we will see in the end. Seems like Cotto is waiting for Floyd but Floyd is playing the big fight comeback game.18 months off then fight. Unfortunetly he is in position to do that because he doesnt need a Belt in 18 months to get a big fight with anyone so in the meanwhile Champs fight each other. Stop waiting for the Big payday and fight because if not you are doing the same thing Floyd is being accused of. Paul will fight anyone will the rest of them. Lets get a Tall Paul vs Cotto fight then. #1 vs #2. If Cotto is #1. Stop waiting for Floyd. Citrons a BUM so let Margo have that RABBIT. But stop waiting or stop being critical of other fighter because u are doing the same thing. I know I am only telling the TRUTH.
What do you mean "We are going belt collecting" are you a member of Williams management team?...Do you make the decisions on who he signs to fight?.....As for Margarito he deserves a rematch with Williams...Williams did not dominate Margarito....It was Tony's slow start that cost him....a bad habit he developed...Truth is he did the same thing in the Clottey fight and if Joshua did not hurt his hand and was able to stay more active...as much of a Margarito supporter I am he would have lost that fight.....Williams won by 2 rds....Toney did not start coming on until the 6th...so that means even when Tony was in slow mode Paul lost some rds to him...You do the Math....Your right Margarito does not have a title and if there was a rematch there is a very good chance Willians wouldn't either
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
CC...I agree that Tony ducks no one. One of the most admirable things that I've seen from a fighter is what Tony did last year in taking the very dangerous fight with Paul to keep his pride and manhood intact.
Nobody can ever take that away from him and other guys should follow that example. That's what being a real fighter is all about.
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
Holyshit........ CC VD.Well said.:-X
Cintrons Problem is upstairs .All the physical attributes but Fragile.
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by uwey
All the Champions in the WW are being advised not to fight Tall Paul. Floyd wont mention his name, Cotto dont want it. Citron,enough about that Coward. Tall Paul calling all CHAMPS, lets fight. Anyone of you. Damn, their is no answer. Floyd, Cotto, Citron, standup and fight you losers. So called Champions.
Williams may be avoided by those guys,but Williams also neglects to ever mention Clottey. I mean he had a free date and offered everyone BUT Clottey. Now,let's put this into perspective:Margarito has fought Williams and Clottey,2 guys NO-ONE wants to fight. He beat 1 and norrwly lost to the other. What does that tell you about Ton'ys mentality. And to think there were people here claiming that Tony was "ducking" Paul ??? ??? :bs: :cwm21: :cwm13: :cwm28: :cwm3:
I'm with you guys,as long as SOMEONE takes Cintron's title,preferably Marg,but I don't mind who.
CC...I agree that Tony ducks no one. One of the most admirable things that I've seen from a fighter is what Tony did last year in taking the very dangerous fight with Paul to keep his pride and manhood intact.
Nobody can ever take that away from him and other guys should follow that example. That's what being a real fighter is all about.
CC back bro. Marg went to court to get the fight v Williams made. That shows how much of a warrior he is and it shows how foolish those people who said Tony was ducking Paul are which is why 95% of them have gone silent now.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
CC,good post.
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
cintron is a bitch. he is ducking williams, to be honest i hope he gets the rematch against margarito so i can see him get ko'd again
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
Cotto vs Williams. What about that fight. The winner meets Margo. Floyd is hiding so these fighters cant play into his hand and wait. Floyd is waiting until Cotto and Williams weed their selves out. He dont want to fight either but he would rather fight Cotto. Cotto vs Williams point blank.#1 vs #2. Who else are they going to fight. I want to see the best fighters fight. Floyd is hiding so forget about him. Unfortunetly he is in position were he can do that but we will get him too. Cant hide forever Floyd. Samething Tarver told Roy. Tall Paul is saying that to Floyd and Cotto. BELT COLLECTING TIME.
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Cintron loses to both Margarito (again) and Williams. Hell, I think he loses to Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Collazo and Berto as well. And I think Cintron-Quintana would be a toss up. The sad part about that is that I think Cintron has improved since his loss to Margarito. It's just that the Welterweight division is stacked. And Cintron still has a way to go
The division is stacked indeed....At this point I still pick him against Berto...Berto leaves himself to wide open and is a little too dependent on his power...Cintron has plenty of power and is a bit of a better boxer...but Berto is developing still...In a year or so I go with Andre if Cintron does not change his ways...I actually go with Quintana to outbox Cintron...
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by uwey
Cotto vs Williams. What about that fight. The winner meets Margo. Floyd is hiding so these fighters cant play into his hand and wait. Floyd is waiting until Cotto and Williams weed their selves out. He dont want to fight either but he would rather fight Cotto. Cotto vs Williams point blank.#1 vs #2. Who else are they going to fight. I want to see the best fighters fight. Floyd is hiding so forget about him. Unfortunetly he is in position were he can do that but we will get him too. Cant hide forever Floyd. Samething Tarver told Roy. Tall Paul is saying that to Floyd and Cotto. BELT COLLECTING TIME.
I like your thining but Arum doesnt so it's most likely not going to Cotto-PW anytime soon. I love Cotto,one of my fave fighters BUT PW is a horrbile match up,styles wise. Mayweather would not go near PW.Even if he did beat Cotto and unify.
Re: PW and Marg tell Kermit to bring it or STFU.
I agree that Arum will do everything he can to avoid fighting Williams (please note that I am saying Arum will duck Paul, not Cotto...I don't doubt that Cotto will fight anyone presented to him). But, provided Williams can continue to make 147, it will be the only logical step within a year. The talk has been of Cotto fighting Clottey in March then Margarito in June (provided he beats Clottey of course, which is no gimme by any stretch). After that, unless Cotto can get De La Hoya (who says he won't fight a Puerto Rican) or Mayweather (who the hell knows what he's gonna do), Williams would really be the only logical move for his fall/winter fight. Even if he can get one of those two to fight him, Paul would still loom as the most reasonable opponent for early '09.
