Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.
Williams pitter pat punches arent gonna get thru the guard, so williams is gonna have to crank up the pace and try to avoid getting rocked with counters like Mosely did..
The key to beating Cotto is to dig his body and uppercut him to rip the inside of his mouth open like it has been the last few fights,there is no amount of surgery that can protect the delicate tissue in the mouth, that scar tissue will rip everytime and will prove to be an achilles heal against a real good fighter that can mix his punches well and combo effectively... Cotto has a high tight guard and ripping to the body and uppercutting him will drop those hands and out will pop his controversial chin. Can Williams be that guy, who knows ??? but it would be a good fight.
Contrary to what a few posters would have you believe that he is the 2nd coming of Christ, Cotto has some glaring deficiences that a smart fighter can expose.
Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.
yeh I'd definatley like to see Oscar v Cotto first regardless of what Oscar detractors have to say about him, it would be a damn good fight. If Cotto won his stock would easily be big enough for a Floyd mega fight.
Williams would have to unify the WBO, IBF and WBA by fighting Cintron and Cotto in order to force a fight with Mayweather.
Re: Cotto vs. Williams is a must.
Tall Paul is the BOOGEYMAN. Cotto dont want this fight. It will destroy everything he work so hard for. His place in line. He better close his eyes and count 1,2,3, and hope Tall Paul disappears into thin air. Cotto and his fans always had a double standard. Do the samething Floyd do. Paul beat Margo, took his place in line. Cotto Knows the same thing will happen to him so lets come up with every excuse in the book not to fight him. Its about #1(cotto)vs.#2(Tall Paul). But we see the best dont want to fight the best just look for a BIG PAYDAY. Just like Mayweather. Cotto and Mayweather 2 peas in a pod. AVOID THE BOOGEYMAN. Get a dog if U scared, Punks.
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Although I like the idea of Cotto fighting Williams to determined who fights Floyd, I don't like the idea of Mayweather sitting idle in the interim. Maybe Floyd could rematch DLH but would anyone be interested in that? So for me I'd prefer to see Floyd & Cotto get it on next. Then if need be Mayweather can fight Williams. At least this way Floyd keeps fighting & ain't sitting on the side lines "retired"
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I think Cotto beats Williams. Williams is an unproven commodity. He beat Margo, but I think Margo has him figured out and will win a rematch. Cotto will chop him down 2 out of 3 times. In a couple more years, who knows. But I doubt Williams will be able to make 147 in a year or 2. People are caught up in the tale of the tape; 6-1, 82 inch reach, when in this case the tape that is more important is on film. Cotto has shown more versatile, more complete and a better all around boxer than Williams in his fights.
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Paul Williams needs this fight because it's good for his legacy, it's a big payday, it's an elite fighter, etc because he won't be able to make 147 much longer and that's where all the big fights are at.
Yes you are right is the same way Cotto needs Floyd so he can establish a legacy
You don't think it would make for a better fight down the road with Mayweather if Cotto unified with Williams first? Perhaps you're worried that Williams would beat Cotto? Personally, I think that Cotto would beat Williams without any controversy, but if you look at the $$$ that Mayweather has made in his last couple fights then even the most die-hard Cotto fan would agree that he's gonna need to do something huge (Mosley was huge, one more mega fight would get him there, imo) if he's gonna come close to bringing the kind of money that a Mayweather fight commands.
I don't care how much they will make since I will have nothing of that cake I'm a boxing fan not their promoters so I say let's see them fight now
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This would be great if Cotto-PBF for whatever reason doesn't get made next.
I don't think though that Cotto for some reason has to fight Paul to earn a shot at Floyd, Cotto's done more to deserve a shot at Floyd than Paul has. Paul has one win really, that may be because people are ducking him although there's no reason whatsoever yet to say that Cotto's ducking him.
But its an interesting fight and definitely if Cotto-Floyd doesn't come off, its the fight to make.
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Willaims is a challenge for anybody and Cotto is Cotto. It would be a superfight in my eyes and with the clash of styles a tense fight also.
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If I were a welterweight I would not get within 82 inches of Williams ;D.
Williams is trouble for anybody but if the fight does get made, I'd give Cotto a good shot of taking him out sinse Williams does not have the power to stop the constant preasure that Cotto will bring.
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Though the tape doesn't necessarily determine the outcome of a fight, look how much difference in size and reach there is. Cotto is what; 5'7 with a 66 or 67 inch reach? PW is 6'1 with 82 inch reach. Margarito had difficulty getting inside PW, and when he did alot of times PW would tie him up until the ref broke it and off PW would go again on the backfoot while throwing a billion jabs. If people thought Hatton looked like a dwarf next to Floyd, Cotto will look even smaller next to PW and be at a severe disadvantage IMO.
Though Cotto is very adaptable, he can't sit there and box PW, as for one the reach will be too much and 2, PW won't stand there in front stationary like Mosley did. Cotto has to break that body, but will have to get inside 1st and not let PW tie him up. I see PW winning a pretty convincing points decision. I like both, but will be pulling for Cotto all the way, and I don't see him ducking anyone. That honor in that division is left to Cintron.
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Though the tape doesn't necessarily determine the outcome of a fight, look how much difference in size and reach there is. Cotto is what; 5'7 with a 66 or 67 inch reach? PW is 6'1 with 82 inch reach. Margarito had difficulty getting inside PW, and when he did alot of times PW would tie him up until the ref broke it and off PW would go again on the backfoot while throwing a billion jabs. If people thought Hatton looked like a dwarf next to Floyd, Cotto will look even smaller next to PW and be at a severe disadvantage IMO.
Though Cotto is very adaptable, he can't sit there and box PW, as for one the reach will be too much and 2, PW won't stand there in front stationary like Mosley did. Cotto has to break that body, but will have to get inside 1st and not let PW tie him up. I see PW winning a pretty convincing points decision. I like both, but will be pulling for Cotto all the way, and I don't see him ducking anyone. That honor in that division is left to Cintron.
CC, this was the point I was going to make. If Margarito, a BIG welter at 5'11", had trouble getting inside Williams, how the hell is Cotto at 5'7" going to manage it? He won't be able to fight on the outside like he did against Moseley because of the reach disadvantage. His only option is to plow ahead and try to force his way inside. And before anybody tells me about Williams "pitter pat" punches, if that were the case, why didn't Margarito just plow his way threw and take him out? I'm not saying he's Hearns or anything, but it is easy to call punches "pitter pat" when you aren't the one taking a sweeping uppercut to the jaw. It's a hell of a tough test for Cotto. As versatile as Cotto is, with all of Williams' physical advantages (I mean, my god, his reach is only 1" shorter than Wlad's!), I honestly can't think of a strategy that Cotto could employ to beat beat him on points. His best chance would be a knockout, but Williams has proven to have a stout beard, so that would be a mighty tough task. I think Arum ducks this fight for as long as is possible.
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Also, I would love to see andre berto step up to cotto just for the fun of it. Arum was talking about having Cotto fight Alfonso Gomez. lol
i'd only wanna see Cotto fight Gomez to show how badly Gatti was already done, plus to kinda kill the whole Contender gimmick
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Though the tape doesn't necessarily determine the outcome of a fight, look how much difference in size and reach there is. Cotto is what; 5'7 with a 66 or 67 inch reach? PW is 6'1 with 82 inch reach. Margarito had difficulty getting inside PW, and when he did alot of times PW would tie him up until the ref broke it and off PW would go again on the backfoot while throwing a billion jabs. If people thought Hatton looked like a dwarf next to Floyd, Cotto will look even smaller next to PW and be at a severe disadvantage IMO.
Though Cotto is very adaptable, he can't sit there and box PW, as for one the reach will be too much and 2, PW won't stand there in front stationary like Mosley did. Cotto has to break that body, but will have to get inside 1st and not let PW tie him up. I see PW winning a pretty convincing points decision. I like both, but will be pulling for Cotto all the way, and I don't see him ducking anyone. That honor in that division is left to Cintron.
CC, this was the point I was going to make. If Margarito, a BIG welter at 5'11", had trouble getting inside Williams, how the hell is Cotto at 5'7" going to manage it? He won't be able to fight on the outside like he did against Moseley because of the reach disadvantage. His only option is to plow ahead and try to force his way inside. And before anybody tells me about Williams "pitter pat" punches, if that were the case, why didn't Margarito just plow his way threw and take him out? I'm not saying he's Hearns or anything, but it is easy to call punches "pitter pat" when you aren't the one taking a sweeping uppercut to the jaw. It's a hell of a tough test for Cotto. As versatile as Cotto is, with all of Williams' physical advantages (I mean, my god, his reach is only 1" shorter than Wlad's!), I honestly can't think of a strategy that Cotto could employ to beat beat him on points. His best chance would be a knockout, but Williams has proven to have a stout beard, so that would be a mighty tough task. I think Arum ducks this fight for as long as is possible.
I don't think Cotto would have too hard a time with Williams.
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PS. Sorry the fight is in Spanish. It's the only version of this fight I own.
Here is Cotto in his 7th pro fight against a much taller figher named Sparkman.
I know Sparkman is no Williams but I know Cotto can adapt to Williams who is also a very tall fighter.
Williams likes to grab the head and pull his opponent, he also likes to try and spin his opponents to get in those angle shots. Cotto is a lot better and stronger at 147 then he was 6 years ago. Tony did not seem to have a fight plan against Williams. I know Cotto will come in with a great fight plan and neutralize the pitter patter and punches in bunches Williams is known for. Tony stayed inside and right in front of Williams. Cotto will be all over the ring and just picking his shots as he sees fit. I think it would be a pretty easy fight for Cotto.
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I hope you're right and I'm wrong, as I am a bigger fan of Cotto as each fight is made and won by him. I just think Williams will be on the backfoot in his running shoes and will win on points just from his jab.
But yeah, I don't think Margarito came in with any sort of plan other than his usual "wear down through attrition" plan, and wasn't expecting PW to have the kind of conditioning that he showed. Cotto is no dummy, so he will work on closing that ring down real fast and getting that body. I still can't see him outboxing PW, but touch that thin frame and start early, and he could very well ko PW. I was sure Mosley would ko Cotto, so I wouldn't be surprised to be proved wrong again with Cotto/Williams.
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Cotto Williams is NOT a must for a number of reasons. The main one being they are on different paths at the moment. Cotto wants Mayweather whereas Williams is looking to unify with Cintron.Then after that,it might be a must. At the moment the only must is number 1 v number 2:Mayweather v Cotto.
