Who won

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Just seeing who people thought won. Thought it was a close one, bit surprised to see it being described as a robbery so much but then again a lot of times on here close fights or slightly bad decisions are seen as robberies.

So who won?

If you thought Herman won, was it just a close fight with a somewhat questionable decision or was it an out and out robbery, a horrible injustice or some shit.

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To be honest i got the impression while i was watching it, that if it was a close fight Paulie would get the nod.

I only had Herman winning by 115-113 so to see it going the other way isn't a robbery. I think people are mostly pissed off with the judges scorecards rather than the overall decision.

9 rounds to 3 in Paulie's favour is a disgrace.

It's at the point where judges can no longer by relied upon to determine a winner and a loser in a fight and thats sad.

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Right the 117-111 card is absurd but I had no problems with the other 2.

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yeh 117-111 is quite disturbing.

The 115-113 to Paulie wasn't anything to complain about too much....depending on how you scored the really close rounds.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Just seeing who people thought won. Thought it was a close one, bit surprised to see it being described as a robbery so much but then again a lot of times on here close fights or slightly bad decisions are seen as robberies.

So who won?

If you thought Herman won, was it just a close fight with a somewhat questionable decision or was it an out and out robbery, a horrible injustice or some shit.

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To be honest i got the impression while i was watching it, that if it was a close fight Paulie would get the nod.

I only had Herman winning by 115-113 so to see it going the other way isn't a robbery. I think people are mostly pissed off with the judges scorecards rather than the overall decision.

9 rounds to 3 in Paulie's favour is a disgrace.

It's at the point where judges can no longer by relied upon to determine a winner and a loser in a fight and thats sad.

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Right the 117-111 card is absurd but I had no problems with the other 2.

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yeh 117-111 is quite disturbing.

The 115-113 to Paulie wasn't anything to complain about too much....depending on how you scored the really close rounds.

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Right on, ono.
Are you also calling it a robbery?
I know JTRock is and would like to read why he thinks it was a robbery. I would also like to see a round by round scorecard from him.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I voted Paulie.
I had it 115-113 for Paulie I could def. see someone having Herman edging it out by a round.
What I can't see is people saying it was a robbery. I think people have begun to miss use the words "Great" & "Robbery" a lot lately.
To me a robbery is a fight where there is a clear cut winner by at least 2 maybe 3 rounds and the decision goes the other way.
Huerta-Raymkulov, Navarro-Gainer, Ortiz-Diaz, Santa-Joel etc. etc. etc.
A fight like this one where an arguement could be made that some rounds were even some could go either way does not IMO qualify it or justify it as a robbery.

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Exactly. The word robbery gets thrown around way too much. I love this debate after fights:

"It was a robbery"

"How did you score it"

"115-113" :D

Look up the definition of robbery and you get Burton-Augustus, not close fights like this.

I think my comments reflect what has already been said. My initial reaction, without scoring the fight was that, herman won. I watched the fight again and had Herman 115-113 but there were a number of close rounds that could have gone either way. I therefore do not see a 115-113 to Paulie as a robbery. Fortunate maybe but no robbery. 117-111 is a disgrace and Larry Hazard can not even be blamed for this one. There ought to be more people leaving the New Jersey commission with scoring like the above.

I gave it to Herman by a round.....Not that Herman is a better fighter then Malignaggi just Malignaggi performed like S***....I won't call it a real robbery...I have seen worse...Much worse....


Actually let me edit that a bit....I don't think giving Paul the decision is that much of a robbery I have seen worse...I do think that having him ahead by 4 rds on one card is a travesty

I saw the fight for the second time this morning and I gave Herman the last two rounds and finally, a draw. Interesting tidbits about the fight: a) I thought Herman scored a knockdown in one of the early rounds when Paulie's landed on his gloves and knees. The announcers said their feet got tangled, but I did not see that and although Paulie was indeed off balance, what sent him to the canvas was a punch to the ribs, which, with Paulie's off balance momentum, made him fall; b) The round where Paulie was staggered/hit hard could have been called a 10-8 round-that's how dominant herman was in that round.