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I dont think it will take anything away from him if he beats old Hopkins, Tarver and Winky couldnt. I dont think Joe loses this one altho i think it will be the hardest fight of his career. He'll have to practice his wrestling to fight the Nard tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
Why should he be lambasted, Hopkins is considered the dominant force at lt heavy regardless of him being 43 years old! Who else is their for him to fight at the moment? Pretty much nobody else has a name as big as hopkins and most everyone else he could fight would be deemed to have been "to green" after joe c got done with them.
Welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome Wagon :coolclick:
I was a bit late in greeting you...now...that being said...considering the fact that I am a huge fan of both fighters being discussed...this has to be one of the more ridiculous statements that I have read...here's why :
No offense...but a win by Calzaghe would be shocking to some & impressive to most legit boxing writers & fans. Beating Hopkins is a huge statement...that's 43 years of experience that Joe will be going toe to toe with & Hopkins is one of the most respected craftsman of the ring. If Joe loses...that sure as shit doesn't equate to a career worthy joke. He has everything to gain by winning this fight...Joe has wanted this fight for nearly 5-6 years now. If he wins...again he beat one of the most savy & crafty techniciians of the game. I'm shocked that you even made that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
Surely you were joking?
If Joe loses & is lambasted by fans worldwide as you say...then it only shows there ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRBOXINGFAN
Wacko I hate to say it,he's right,Bernard is starting to seriously push his luck now,and Joe doesnt have enough big names on his resume
If,and thats a big if,Bernard pulls this off,its because he saw something he can exploit in Joe.But to most boxing fans,casual or hardcore,Joe is going to look very exposed
If I was a betting man(and Im not,I like keeping my money)Id bet Joe,but something is niggling at the back of my head saying,"Bernard saw something"the only two times Ive ever seen Bernard fight dumb,he still won one of those fights no matter what the judges said
Its either going to be the old guy finally gets exposed as way too old to continue,or its going to be the guy who doesnt travel,cant
I really dont like this fight either way,and I certainly wouldnt be laying money on the table
Yes GRBoxing fan you are showing a bit of ignorance if you think beating Hopkins proves nothing
Hopkins may be 43 but he is still at the top of his game and right up there in the P4P ratings - think The Ring currently has him at number 4 or 5
Beating him proves everything - and is the biggest fight out there for him
I disagree that beating Hopkins is any big feat at this stage. Calzaghe is worlds apart right now and will dominate Hopkins. B-Hop can try and spoil but that wont be enough to see off the work rate and Hopkins will be crushed. Hopkins has a great right hand, but he is older than the pyramids. Its a shame he is even fighting really.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Calzaghe will take him to pieces...step by step. It will get him a lot of attention but it would be a different fight a decade ago.
What Joe gains if he wins is the ring championship at a 2nd weight, and a victory over a guy still considered by many top 10 p4p, though Hopkins age will take away from the glory.
It's going to be a tough fight as Hopkins knows how to survive by any means, unless Joe gains some super strength by not having to lose the extra 7 lbs this one will be going the distance.
On the fact that Joe C is expected to win, nothing he can do about that, since beating Mikkel there isn't an opponent around for him he wouldn't be expected to beat, though perhaps Pavlik or Dawson might be considered sterner tests than Hopkins at the moment.
Hopkins is 43....43. I could care less about Rings P4P having him top 5. Calzaghe needs to win this fight to avoid a disaster. Maybe in the UK beating grand fathers garners a lot of points, but if Joe is even close to an all time great fighter, he mops the floor with a 43 year old counter puncher. I know beating a Eubanks, a green Lacy and Kessler who has fought no one is quite a feat. Hell Joe C is so tough he beat a Game show winner in 3 rounds when it took Slow Motion Lacey a whole fight to beat him. Thats impressive. I know that Calzaghe is the hero of the moment, just like Hatton and Hamed were before him, but he has a lot to prove to me still.
I've said it before, but GREAT fighters have fought more than just a few top notch opponents in their career. It seems some fans are impressed by a guy that fights 35 nobodies and then sprinkles in 5 pretty good fighters and maybe 4 guys who can be considered top competition (and that is arguable). Joe's card doesn't cut it in my book.
Compare Joe's card to anyone and he comes out on the short end. It is not a good card. He needs several more top fighters to impress me like he impresses his loyal fans.
Hopkins is still good, but he s 43, if Joe is this all time Great? Well, an all time great at 35 smokes an all time great at 43. But what if Hopkins wins? I'm sure Joe fans will elevate Hopkins to Godlike status as to make it look like their all time great only lost because he fought "one of the 2 or 3 best ever." Fact is, that a 43 year old Bernard Hopkins isn't a top 100 all time fighter (he has had a top 20 all time career). Joe C is just past his Prime and if he claims to be top 100 all time, this fight is a must win for him IMO. If he KOs Bernard he can elevate his status quite a bit. Not sure who I will bet on.
Bernard Hopkins is in for the shock of his life, Calzaghe is gonna own his ass big time!!!