Re: Bilbo's Questions on life and stuff
Thanks for all the feedback and opinion guys, I think together we could solve many of life's mysteries.
Donny good answer my friend, the same as Laing basicially but phrased so simply that even an American could understand them.......well not Boxing Gorrilla :rolleyes:
It seems there is disagreement over the size doubling model. I'm really not sure, which is why I asked the question in the first place. I tend to agree with you Donny that if everything in the entire universe increased in size we wouldn't know any difference. Speed of light would stay the same as the light particles themselves would double in size and hence still travel at the same speed.
It's an interesting question though I think and asks the question as to whether or our measurements are based on anything absolute which cannot change. The jury is still out on this one for me.
I think the what to blind people dream in in a good idea, and it's not just dreams. IF someone has been blind since what would they percieve the people in their life and the world around them to look like?
It would probably be a weird trip to take, that one!
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hitmandonny
If EVERYTHING in the entire universe doubled in size every 24 hours would be able to notice? I mean could science prove that everything was gaining size if there was nothing that was not gaining size to compare it to?
If everything in the universe doubled in size every second it would be of no concern to us! As long as the growth in the universe was equal each time and the growth was equally dispersed, our units of measurements would not be affected and therefore would be of no concern to us.
If everything was to double in size in the entire universe and such a change could not be detected because there would be no point of fixed reference to compare then would it even be possible to double in size?
Precisely, If everything doubles equally then even our millimetres double in size and would leave the scale of measurement used by us humans untouched and as accurate as it was.
Anyway my question is simply, if light travels at 186,282,397 miles per second where does it go?
Light is moving heat energy which will tarvel until it reaches a surface. Should it meet with a reflective surface it will reflect and continue it's journey elsewhere. Should it meat with a conductive or dull surface it's energy will be absorbed. I.e the Earth conducts heat from the suns rays and therefore limits it's travelling power. Energy will be conducted by any solid particle really and that is why the suns heat energy is deecreased so much by the time it reachess Plutio etc.
I mean you turn a light bulb off and the light instantly vanishes, but the light that has already eminated from the bulb and shot off at 186,000,000 odd miles a second, where does it go to? And can it travel through walls?
As I explained light cannot travel through walls as heat energy is conducted and stored by natural materials, solids, gases, liquids and atmospheres.
If you shone a torch in a cave in pitch darkness would the light that eminated from the torch continue to travel for all eternity to somewhere or does it die and cease to exist? Scientists tell us that matter cannot be created or destroyed so I'm guessing something must happen to it.....but what?
It is absorbed by the cave walls/stone/water etc. A bigger light source would light the cave, a small torch will only emmitt enough heat energy to light a small region of the cave.
It is a well known fact that alcohol makes your breath stink. With this in mind why is it a major ingrediant in virtually every single mouthwash?
Ok, alcohol, does not cause bad breat exactly. It is the extra ingredients included that cause bad breath and odour. The alcohol humans consume rarely tastes like actual alcohol as pure alcohol would cause us to ga and vomit on in take.
What alcohol does do is linger in moist areas (i.e the mouth) for long periods of time. So when it is attached to hops and barley it causes beer breath, when attached to mint it leaves a nice fresh taste.
I believe thems some simple explanations.
If everything in the universe did double in size every second in less than an hour* earth would be burnt to a crisp by the sun.
*Possibly a little longer, can't be arsed to even guess more accurately than that.
We do have a point of fixed reference for measurments. If everything doubled in size overnight we'd know about it first thing next morning.
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Laing, If everything in the universe doubled in size every second, the space between the sun and earth would double too.
It's simple algebra really.
x=earth y= space between earth andsun z=sun
x + y = z;
In English;The earth's location plus the distance between the earth and sun brings you to the suns location
Double it up.
2x + 2y = 2z
An Eart Double the size with a distance of double the original amount form the sun still brings you to the suns loaction even if it is double the size.
Thanks for the kind words Bilbs
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hitmandonny
Laing, If everything in the universe doubled in size every second, the space between the sun and earth would double too.
It's simple algebra really.
x=earth y= space between earth andsun z=sun
x + y = z;
In English;The earth's location plus the distance between the earth and sun brings you to the suns location
Double it up.
2x + 2y = 2z
An Eart Double the size with a distance of double the original amount form the sun still brings you to the suns loaction even if it is double the size.
Thanks for the kind words Bilbs
But the radiation from the sun would increase exponentially, cooking the earth in record time. After 24 hours the earth would look like Mars.
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Well here's where objectivity comes in.
I feel the radiation emitted by the sun would increase. However, I believe it wouls simply double.
If the distance between the sun and earth doubled at the same time, would we not be exposed to an equivalent amount of sun radiation?
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I everything doubled our point of measurment would not stay the same would they. If a Mili metre is the space between these two lines /.. / double it /......./....Its not a milimetre anymore. So we would know.
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Tins06
I everything doubled our point of measurment would not stay the same would they. If a Mili metre is the space between these two lines /.. / double it /......./....Its not a milimetre anymore. So we would know.
We would double at the same time. The sapce would appear the same and everything you would try to measure would be twice as big. Therefore the unit remains the same or equivalent, as I said algebra.
x=y
2x=2y
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hitmandonny
We would double at the same time. The sapce would appear the same and everything you would try to measure would be twice as big. Therefore the unit remains the same or equivalent, as I said algebra.
x=y
2x=2y
I'm agreeing with you on this Donny,
Re: Bilbo's Questions on life and stuff
Thanks Bilbo, alwyas good to have some backup :)
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If the Earth doubled in size every second then everyone would be crushed by the massive shift in the gravitational pull well within the first 2 seconds
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Lyle
If the Earth doubled in size every second then everyone would be crushed by the massive shift in the gravitational pull well within the first 2 seconds
Well first off it's every 24 hours not every second. And besides that we are talking about EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE doubling in size.
Every single atom, particle and piece of anti matter in the universe double in size.
How would we tell? Is there a way?
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bilbo
Well first off it's every 24 hours not every second. And besides that we are talking about EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE doubling in size.
Every single atom, particle and piece of anti matter in the universe double in size.
How would we tell? Is there a way?
Well that doesn't change things too much....if something grows it doesn't necessarily mean it grows stronger as well or in proportion to the size/mass growing
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This Is a little off topic, But Is there anyf!!!! thing that smells worse than when you run steaming hot water over a knife with peanut butter on It ??? I noticed It while doing the dishes and Man THAT s!!! was stanky!
Ok,smart people back In the thread please.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
This Is a little off topic, But Is there anyf!!!! thing that smells worse than when you run steaming hot water over a knife with peanut butter on It ??? I noticed It while doing the dishes and Man THAT s!!! was stanky!
Ok,smart people back In the thread please.
Yes plenty of things....apparently you've never been behind a hog truck or for that matter one with turkeys in it
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hitmandonny
Well here's where objectivity comes in.
I feel the radiation emitted by the sun would increase. However, I believe it wouls simply double.
If the distance between the sun and earth doubled at the same time, would we not be exposed to an equivalent amount of sun radiation?
If the sun doubled in size you'd have twice the mass and consequently twice the amount of nuclear fusion going on. But the sun's gravity would also double, and it's the amount of gravity that determines the rate of fusion -- as fusion takes place and hydrogen is converted into helium, the pressure drops, gravity takes over and causes the sun to shrink. As the sun shrinks, pressure and heat begin to increase again and when the sun hits a certain temperature a round of fusion starts again. This contraction round of fusion releases vast amounts of energy compared to the expansion phase. Double the gravity and you'd speed up the rate of expansion/contraction and consequent increase in radiation exponentially above the level created by a double-size sun compared to if you had eg. two identical original size suns next to each other.
If the sun did double in size it would burn out a lot brighter and faster than the estimated four or five billion years it has left*. If it doubled every day or every second as per Bilbo's original contention, it'd soon collapse into a black hole, but not before giving the galaxy a hell of a firework display first.
*Judged by observation of some of the hundreds of billions of suns in our galaxy, itself one of hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. It's just lucky that the sun in our solar system is just the right size and distance from us for life on earth to have been possible. Even a relatively small difference in either would have left the earth far too warm or cold to support life.