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Originally Posted by Pantera
So does Miranda...;)
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Originally Posted by Pantera
So does Miranda...;)
If Abraham only fights soft, hand-picked opponents, how come he ever fought Miranda? Fact is, Abraham fought through and won despite a broken jaw. Now Miranda will have to display similar qualities despite a burst bubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantera
Miranda was his mandatory. He had no choice to fight or give up the belt. Gevor was his next mandatory when Miranda went to fight Pavlik instead of the rematch. Abraham is a champ, but gets no respect for his choice of opponents. If you respect him, than it doesnt take much for you, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barlick
Abraham responds to Miranda!
Undefeated IBF middleweight champion King Arthur Abraham has advised Edison Miranda to seek psychological help following his latest verbal outburst. "He must still be traumatised by our first meeting," King Arthur (25-0, 20 KOs) said. "I kicked his butt even though I had my jaw broken twice. That must have done something to his heart and brain. If Miranda wants to speak to someone about his mental problems, then he should go and see a psychiatrist." Miranda publicly demanded a rematch with Abraham – even though according to Sauerland Event he had turned down an offer for a rematch last summer. "I cannot understand Miranda´s remarks at all," Sauerland managing director Chris Meyer said. "Last summer, when Arthur had to make his mandatory defense, we offered Miranda a rematch. But he turned down and moved up to super middleweight instead." Wilfried Sauerland also laughed off Miranda´s latest antics. "Arthur is the best middleweight in the world," the manager stated. "He will fight anybody anywhere."
source: fightnews.com
I'll believe that when I see him come stateside to face Pavlik. His camp makes a good point about Miranda giving up his chance to rematch, but I think pigs will fly before he leaves Germany to fight a top caliber opponent. Still, he's probably the 3rd best MW, behind Pavlik and Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss
Miranda remained the mandatory after the 'robbery' in their first fight. When Pantera decided to fight Pavlik to get to Tayor, the mandatory was dropped and given to Gevor. That was the only time a rematch could have happened. There was never an offer after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RozzySean
I agree. Abraham recent opponents have been bad. But Miranda's recent opponents have been straight garbage. I can't believe he's actually running his mouth.
Allen Green was more dangerous than anyone Abraham has fought lately....at least he was supposed to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I'm talking about Porras and Banks. You can't tell me they were good opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Porras incidentally fought this weekend. Knocked out by a 20 year old Mexican...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Regardless of recent opoosition(and even then,AA is fighting a guy that Banks beat twice,we saw what Pantera did to Banks), Miranda had the balls to go to AA's backyard and beat 2 bags of shit out of AA,bearly ending his career. Since then,Pantera has fought guys like Green,Pavlik,Banks and a fight with Pascal in the pipeline. Who has AA fought since their fight? Who has AA fought bar Pantera? And remember Edison had to go to him. I want to see a rematch in the States where Miranda does not have to fight the ref and the fighter.
I heard that alot of dodgy stuff was going on the fight in Europe bar the ridiculous point deductions and the fact that the fight should have been a TKO. I don't subscribe to the AA showed heart,he was FORCED to carry on. Watch the fight,he clearly didn't want to continue,his corner forced him to.
Bring his cheap ass to the States, I really want to see Miranda kTFO big time.
i would like to see pavlik- abraham, i wouldn't mind a miranda abraham rematch either
I'm a big fan of King Arthur but there is no question his opposition, Miranda aside has been piss poor.
Miranda fought Howard Eastman when Eastman was still a somebody, the same Eastman who was unlucky to lose to Abraham. He fought an ubeaten Allen Green, he fought Kelly Pavlik as well and is now going to fight unbeaten Jean Pascal. Significantly he also travelled to Abraham's back yard to make that fight happen.
Even his softest fight against David Banks has still twice defeated Abraham's next world title opponent.
I'm losing all respect for Abraham right now, he's picking simply unworthy opponents. In back to back fights with Elcock and Alaya it's hard to pick another champion in the whole of boxing who is taking easier fights.
Miranda's level of competition is much higher, to deny this is simply to know nothing about boxing.
....anyone think a John Duddy-Arthur Abraham fight would be a good one? And that would be a HUGE step up in competition for Arthur....Duddy would be a step UP in competition for him :o
That's how poor the opponents he has been fighting are....hell even fight a good German like Sylvester or Sturm!
Abraham is the new Svenn Ottke
Nah even Ottke faced a prime Robin Reid and Charles Brewer not to mention Anthony Mundine and Glen Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
So far Abrahams record doesn't come close to Ottke's