Hey, I called it... Manfredo to move to 160

Okay Pride, I know you are a fan, and I'm not trying to bash Manfredo, (okay, maybe just a little ;)) or pick a fight, but I don't see him making any waves at 160 either.

Here's why:

1) His whole reason for moving up to 168 was because he said that he couldn't make 160 anymore. During, and after The Contender, he bitched and moaned about how he was killing himself to make weight at 160. So how is it going to be different now? If making 160 is really that hard on him and his body, isn't he going to be draining himself of some of his power in the process of making that weight?

2) I really don't think that Peter has the mindset of a champion. Honestly, I don't think that boxing really was his passion in the first place. The impression that I, and many others seem to have, is that he was pretty much forced into the sport by his father, and stuck with it, so that he would not disappoint his father. If he really was passionate about boxing, and thought that he would be a world champion, why would go to school to become an electrician? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you really felt that you would be a champion, then there should be no need to have a career to fall back on.

3) Peter chokes at his big fights.

To be honest, I think Peter knows that his 15 minutes is about up, and I get the feeling that he will first fight a couple bums at 160 to get used to the weight again, and then he will call out Sergio for another rematch. He and TOC knows, that both his, and Sergio's star status has fallen dramatically, and maybe the only way to get it back, is to try for another rematch in hopes of getting that Contender fan base interest back again.

I bet that if Sergio does not make a good showing in his upcoming fight against Vernon, then shortly after that fight, the talks of a Mora/Manfredo rematch will start coming up.

This is just my opinion, but hey, if Manfredo proves me wrong, and becomes a world champion, then I'll give him the props that he deserves, I'm not above that.

But I don't think that I will have to. ;D

Manfredo's body should easily allow him to make 154, he's not a big guy.

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Originally Posted by DGs_Diane

Okay Pride, I know you are a fan, and I'm not trying to bash Manfredo, (okay, maybe just a little ;)) or pick a fight, but I don't see him making any waves at 160 either.

Here's why:

1) His whole reason for moving up to 168 was because he said that he couldn't make 160 anymore. During, and after The Contender, he bitched and moaned about how he was killing himself to make weight at 160. So how is it going to be different now? If making 160 is really that hard on him and his body, isn't he going to be draining himself of some of his power in the process of making that weight?

2) I really don't think that Peter has the mindset of a champion. Honestly, I don't think that boxing really was his passion in the first place. The impression that I, and many others seem to have, is that he was pretty much forced into the sport by his father, and stuck with it, so that he would not disappoint his father. If he really was passionate about boxing, and thought that he would be a world champion, why would go to school to become an electrician? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if you really felt that you would be a champion, then there should be no need to have a career to fall back on.

3) Peter chokes at his big fights.

To be honest, I think Peter knows that his 15 minutes is about up, and I get the feeling that he will first fight a couple bums at 160 to get used to the weight again, and then he will call out Sergio for another rematch. He and TOC knows, that both his, and Sergio's star status has fallen dramatically, and maybe the only way to get it back, is to try for another rematch in hopes of getting that Contender fan base interest back again.

I bet that if Sergio does not make a good showing in his upcoming fight against Vernon, then shortly after that fight, the talks of a Mora/Manfredo rematch will start coming up.

This is just my opinion, but hey, if Manfredo proves me wrong, and becomes a world champion, then I'll give him the props that he deserves, I'm not above that.

But I don't think that I will have to. ;D

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I don't take it as bashing but most is the truth...;) He will probably only be a regional fighter from here on in. I do think 154 would be a better fit and I think the weight thing is bull.. I think he's just being lazy.

I think that the only part I disagree with is world champion or not... C'mon... If he thought he was going to be champion why would he go to school to be an electrician? C'mon... So what, what your saying is he should have tried and tried and then at age 36 if that didn't work he and his family should starve for a few years while trying to pic up a trade then? Look at Juan Diaz... I'm not comparing the two as fighters but why would he continue to go to school... Hasn't he made it? That statement is rediculous. As far as he being forced in by his father... He started boxing to follow his father and uncle...:confused: His father never actully wanted him to fight...(from his fathers mouth to my ears...)

I agree with the Mora statement... I have thought about the same thing:-\


Yeah, he does choke in big fights and it sucks... But it's true... Like I said... nomatter the weight he will be a good regional fighter for new england... Thats about it...

Diane, I really like your posts. You have a lot of knowlege of the game. :cool:

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Manfredo's body should easily allow him to make 154, he's not a big guy.

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I agree, Peter is not a big guy, and logically, he should go down in weight.

But, Peter is the one that has said on MANY occassions, that he had trouble making the weight. So if he was telling the truth back then, how is it going to be any different now?

I'm just going by what Peter has said himself.

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

I don't take it as bashing but most is the truth...;) He will probably only be a regional fighter from here on in. I do think 154 would be a better fit and I think the weight thing is bull.. I think he's just being lazy.

I think that the only part I disagree with is world champion or not... C'mon... If he thought he was going to be champion why would he go to school to be an electrician? C'mon... So what, what your saying is he should have tried and tried and then at age 36 if that didn't work he and his family should starve for a few years while trying to pic up a trade then? Look at Juan Diaz... I'm not comparing the two as fighters but why would he continue to go to school... Hasn't he made it? That statement is rediculous. As far as he being forced in by his father... He started boxing to follow his father and uncle...:confused: His father never actully wanted him to fight...(from his fathers mouth to my ears...)

I agree with the Mora statement... I have thought about the same thing:-\


Yeah, he does choke in big fights and it sucks... But it's true... Like I said... nomatter the weight he will be a good regional fighter for new england... Thats about it...

Diane, I really like your posts. You have a lot of knowlege of the game. :cool:

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Like I said, it's just my opinion, not trying to pick any fights. I tried to give you rep, but I have to spread some love around first. ;D

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Originally Posted by DGs_Diane

Like I said, it's just my opinion, not trying to pick any fights. I tried to give you rep, but I have to spread some love around first. ;D

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No no no... You didn't come across that way:)... I tried to rep you after I posted but it wouldn't allow it...

I agree with most of what you say...

He will have alot of trouble making waves in any div if he continues on the road he's on now...:-\

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3568/goodieof4.jpg
Sergio Mora called him out right after their second fight and Peter peed on himself.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3568/goodieof4.jpg
Sergio Mora called him out right after their second fight and Peter peed on himself.

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I'm sure... He beat Sergio up the second fight so that's probably not the case...

He'd take on Jeff Lacy and Joe Calzaghe but he's ducking Mora... Are you ok?



Greal fwockin pic, LOL;D;D;D;D;D;D

Regardless of what weight he fights at, I don't seem him being a world champion. He's just a flat out ordinary fighter and thats being generous. These "contender Guys" are just like American Idol contestants. Made for TV prospects hyped up to sound better than they really are.

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Originally Posted by Swice

Regardless of what weight he fights at, I don't seem him being a world champion. He's just a flat out ordinary fighter and thats being generous. These "contender Guys" are just like American Idol contestants. Made for TV prospects hyped up to sound better than they really are.

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Yeah but remember that Manfredo WAS an actually legit prospect back in 04... Not overhyped... I will allow that tag now, though;D

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

Yeah but remember that Manfredo WAS an actually legit prospect back in 04... Not overhyped... I will allow that tag now, though;D

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You seem to be a Manfredo fan, but also a realist, so I guess you would probably be the best person to pose this question to. What happened to Manfredo from legit prospect till now?

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Originally Posted by Swice

You seem to be a Manfredo fan, but also a realist, so I guess you would probably be the best person to pose this question to. What happened to Manfredo from legit prospect till now?

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Fame... That made him a name... Therefore he was thrown into he ring with guys he never should have been in the ring with(ie Calzaghe, Lacy he could have beaten... boring ass fight) on the coat tails of money and a 2nd place on a TV show... Calzaghe got exposure and Lacy had a comeback fight...

Money was the root of it... He did pretty well on the contender. But, really, who cares... Boxing is a game of "what have you done for me lately"

Lately he lost an extremely inactive fight to a fighter that seems to still be injured wether it's ego, esteem or legit injury I don't know... Nor do I care.

Peter looks as if he may never see the world stage again cuz if he gets there who's gonna want to see him...? Me? That'd be a pretty shitty showing.

He needs to find a weight(154)... stay there and try to do some damage to fringe contenders... He may have a shot at a belt at that point but that is VERY optimistic thinking;D

I never really felt Manfred belonged at 168 in the first place

That's good that Manfredo is moving to 160. But it don't change the fact that he still a bum