Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
Shane is the man. My top current fighter. Takes on any challenge, great attitude, just all around solid. Couldn't ask for a better guy. Skill is tremendous and he actually fights. Mosley is fast enough to be a slick runner who wins decisions, but his character won't allow it. He wants to beat the other guy. He will even fight their style and try to beat them at it. He's the best current fighter and top 5 all time for me.
I know he's not in his prime, but he's the epitome of lb4lb. Most of his career has been with much bigger guys and he still attempted to ko them and beat them rather than just win rounds. The Cotto fight is a perfect example. He made the puncher box because he was getting outpunched. Shane stalked him, and beat him at his own game, lost the decision because of it but that's how he fights.
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
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luvfightgame
Shane is the man. My top current fighter. Takes on any challenge, great attitude, just all around solid. Couldn't ask for a better guy. Skill is tremendous and he actually fights. Mosley is fast enough to be a slick runner who wins decisions, but his character won't allow it. He wants to beat the other guy. He will even fight their style and try to beat them at it. He's the best current fighter and top 5 all time for me.
I know he's not in his prime, but he's the epitome of lb4lb. Most of his career has been with much bigger guys and he still attempted to ko them and beat them rather than just win rounds. The Cotto fight is a perfect example. He made the puncher box because he was getting outpunched. Shane stalked him, and beat him at his own game, lost the decision because of it but that's how he fights.
I respect what your saying mate and I agree Mosley is an ATG but top 5...no not possble
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
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Having rewatched Mosely v Cotto AGAIN last night I saw Shane's hesitance to commit to another fight. Shane although in a pleasent mood as always seemed a little disconsolate and refused to definitively answer the question put to him bY HBO'S Max Kellerman.
This made me wonder. Should the Sugar man retire toady, what would your opinion of him be? What are your primary memories and are they fond memories or not?
For me he goes down in history as an ATG Lightweight. This may be a bit much for some people but I feel at 135 he was that good.
I'll always remeber his chin and heart, for a guy who was actually smaller than nearly all of his competition he never was fazed and apart from the Wright and Forrest fights I never saw him beaten decisively.
So.....Thoughts?
The fact that Mosley could fight even with a fighter like Cotto at his age speaks volumes how much of a great fighter Mosley is. Nice guy outside the ring and a hell of a fighter inside the ring. He had one of the quickest hands i've ever seen i would have loved to have seen Shane Mosley vs Meldrick Taylor can you imagine the speed of the combinations in that fight wow is all i can say. I also think Mosley has one of the best chins in modern day boxing, he was for certain one of the best Lightweights in history i even think he could of beat the legendary Roberto Duran at Lightweight.
He's absolutely a top 3 ATG Lightweight and a top 20 WW. He was unstoppable at 135 and one of the tops of his generation for WW. I was talking about Shane with one of his cousins, and he told me the only guy who ever really had Shane hurt was Forrest. Shane vs Duran at 135 would be amazing.
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hitmandonny
Having rewatched Mosely v Cotto AGAIN last night I saw Shane's hesitance to commit to another fight. Shane although in a pleasent mood as always seemed a little disconsolate and refused to definitively answer the question put to him bY HBO'S Max Kellerman.
This made me wonder. Should the Sugar man retire toady, what would your opinion of him be? What are your primary memories and are they fond memories or not?
For me he goes down in history as an ATG Lightweight. This may be a bit much for some people but I feel at 135 he was that good.
I'll always remeber his chin and heart, for a guy who was actually smaller than nearly all of his competition he never was fazed and apart from the Wright and Forrest fights I never saw him beaten decisively.
So.....Thoughts?
The fact that Mosley could fight even with a fighter like Cotto at his age speaks volumes how much of a great fighter Mosley is. Nice guy outside the ring and a hell of a fighter inside the ring. He had one of the quickest hands i've ever seen i would have loved to have seen Shane Mosley vs Meldrick Taylor can you imagine the speed of the combinations in that fight wow is all i can say. I also think Mosley has one of the best chins in modern day boxing, he was for certain one of the best Lightweights in history i even think he could of beat the legendary Roberto Duran at Lightweight.
He's absolutely a top 3 ATG Lightweight and a top 20 WW. He was unstoppable at 135 and one of the tops of his generation for WW. I was talking about Shane with one of his cousins, and he told me the only guy who ever really had Shane hurt was Forrest. Shane vs Duran at 135 would be amazing.
Top 3? He struggles to make top 10 IMO
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The fact that Mosley could fight even with a fighter like Cotto at his age speaks volumes how much of a great fighter Mosley is. Nice guy outside the ring and a hell of a fighter inside the ring. He had one of the quickest hands i've ever seen i would have loved to have seen Shane Mosley vs Meldrick Taylor can you imagine the speed of the combinations in that fight wow is all i can say. I also think Mosley has one of the best chins in modern day boxing, he was for certain one of the best Lightweights in history i even think he could of beat the legendary Roberto Duran at Lightweight.
He's absolutely a top 3 ATG Lightweight and a top 20 WW. He was unstoppable at 135 and one of the tops of his generation for WW. I was talking about Shane with one of his cousins, and he told me the only guy who ever really had Shane hurt was Forrest. Shane vs Duran at 135 would be amazing.
Top 3? He struggles to make top 10 IMO
I could argue 20 reasons he belongs among the top ...
Speed.....fastas any LW in history faster then most
Power..Hit hard....especially in combos
Chin...Never even wobbled at 135 he was slick, youu name it he had it....How many reasons can you name why he isn't worthy of top 10?
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He's absolutely a top 3 ATG Lightweight and a top 20 WW. He was unstoppable at 135 and one of the tops of his generation for WW. I was talking about Shane with one of his cousins, and he told me the only guy who ever really had Shane hurt was Forrest. Shane vs Duran at 135 would be amazing.
Top 3? He struggles to make top 10 IMO
I could argue 20 reasons he belongs among the top ...
Speed.....fastas any LW in history faster then most
Power..Hit hard....especially in combos
Chin...Never even wobbled at 135 he was slick, youu name it he had it....How many reasons can you name why he isn't worthy of top 10?
Duran, Leonard, Whiitaker, Gans, Williams, Brown, Ortiz, Canzoneri, Montgomery, Jack, Ambers, Welsh... theres more than 10 reasons right there
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Top 3? He struggles to make top 10 IMO
I could argue 20 reasons he belongs among the top ...
Speed.....fastas any LW in history faster then most
Power..Hit hard....especially in combos
Chin...Never even wobbled at 135 he was slick, youu name it he had it....How many reasons can you name why he isn't worthy of top 10?
Duran, Leonard, Whiitaker, Gans, Williams, Brown, Ortiz, Canzoneri, Montgomery, Jack, Ambers, Welsh... theres more than 10 reasons right there
Perspective and respect.What a wonderful Attribute.Oh Galaxy, you know that If we dont see them on DVD though .......They do not count Lol.Speaking at Lightweight, Very good and superb top notch talent but not an all time great Imo.
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
I've enjoyed everything he has brought to the table for all of us, I cant belive there are detractors of the mans efforts in here.
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Judah is on a different level than Mosley, he's never been good with right jabs..
Mosley is just the poor man's Oscar De La hoya
The poor man's De La Hoya?.....And you smoke what?..:rasta:....Mosley is and was a better fighter then DLH.....the only thing Oscar has over Shane is a left hook....
Lol Shane dominated Oscar everytime they shared a ring !
Shane at his best was one of the all time greats of any era .
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Shane is not finished yet he still has a lot to offer provided he is motivated and can get out of his silk pyjamas.
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
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luvfightgame
Shane is the man. My top current fighter. Takes on any challenge, great attitude, just all around solid. Couldn't ask for a better guy. Skill is tremendous and he actually fights. Mosley is fast enough to be a slick runner who wins decisions, but his character won't allow it. He wants to beat the other guy. He will even fight their style and try to beat them at it. He's the best current fighter and top 5 all time for me.
I know he's not in his prime, but he's the epitome of lb4lb. Most of his career has been with much bigger guys and he still attempted to ko them and beat them rather than just win rounds. The Cotto fight is a perfect example. He made the puncher box because he was getting outpunched. Shane stalked him, and beat him at his own game, lost the decision because of it but that's how he fights.
I respect what your saying mate and I agree Mosley is an ATG but top 5...no not possble
It's my list where he's top 5. It's comprised of fighters I like. I am knowledgeable with fighters of the 80's and up. Other than SRR I don't go back past the 80's. Everything I would know about guys older than that is hearsay, cause I haven't seen them fight. My list is more current guys, and the requirements are mainly that I like them. Sounds really simple, but believe it or not it's harder to get on that list than it is in the hall of fame. I just don't like that many fighters. I'm not a hater, but I don't really become a fan of very many fighters. :dontknow:
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
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The fact that Mosley could fight even with a fighter like Cotto at his age speaks volumes how much of a great fighter Mosley is. Nice guy outside the ring and a hell of a fighter inside the ring. He had one of the quickest hands i've ever seen i would have loved to have seen Shane Mosley vs Meldrick Taylor can you imagine the speed of the combinations in that fight wow is all i can say. I also think Mosley has one of the best chins in modern day boxing, he was for certain one of the best Lightweights in history i even think he could of beat the legendary Roberto Duran at Lightweight.
He's absolutely a top 3 ATG Lightweight and a top 20 WW. He was unstoppable at 135 and one of the tops of his generation for WW. I was talking about Shane with one of his cousins, and he told me the only guy who ever really had Shane hurt was Forrest. Shane vs Duran at 135 would be amazing.
Top 3? He struggles to make top 10 IMO
He struggles to make your your top 10 in at 135? That's pretty surprising. I can't imagine anybody not including him in a list of top 10 lightweights. Do you remember young, prime, lightweight Sugar Shane?
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Although i agree Seanie i can still understand Galaxy's point. There has been many great Lightweights and i just done this top 10 list off the top of my head not in order of some of the greatest Lightweights of all time. And i could have easily left Mosley off this list and replaced him with Esteban De Jesus or etc.
Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Joe Gans
Shane Mosley
Tony Canzoneri
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Ike Williams
Joe Brown
Jimmy Carter
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Judah is on a different level than Mosley, he's never been good with right jabs..
Mosley is just the poor man's Oscar De La hoya
Every time I read one of your posts a brain cell dies as the people attempt to figure out how anyone can have such a poor boxing knowledge.
Re: The legacy of Sugar Shane Mosely.
while Mosley was an EXCELLENT lightweight he just doesnt have enough good names on his record to be considered an all time great at the weight. and at welter his record was patchy at best,2 losses to Forrest ,a close win over the transves....i mean De La Hoya, a KO of Adrian stone, a loss to Cotto(clear im my opinion) .....i mean its hardly great.
but i always liked Shane,he was a brave guy with a real fighters attitude but what do you think of his drug use??? nobody mentioned it yet.
i for one think it should count against him.a cheat is a cheat whether we like it or not .
