Request for Scorecards--Pacquiao / Marquez II

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Are you fucking kidding me how did Marquez win the first round? He landed one right hand, the rest was all Pacuqiao, also the 4th? How the hell did Marquez win that, Pacquaio landed so many hard lefts it wasn't even funny in that round. That round made it look like Marquez was going to get stopped.

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cause his clearly bias, atleast i will admit it was a close fight and i was wrong to think the extra pound would benefit pac but it didn't it made his ass lazy and not go for the kill. imo pac would of stopped jmm early if he was a lot lighter. his speed clearly dominates his power is dangerous and the only way jmm stays in the fight is if pac settles down or gets off balance.

ice ruins himself when he does this to himself, posting a clear cut bias scorecard.

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And you haven't ruined yourself enough already ?? please be quiet and stop luring me into a debate i believe Taeth asked me the question yes ?? and not you.

First off Taeth the first round was very close and that was a very even round, until IMO Marquez stole the round for me winning the last 20 seconds of the round. 4th round was another close round like the 1st round i will re watch it tomorrow but you can't honestly say that you couldn't see Marquez not winning those rounds ??

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OK the first round had 4 hard punches, two of them were left crosses to the body that Pacquaio landed(one near the end of the round), Marquez landed one good right hand the whole round, he landed 6 punches that round, but Pacquaio landed 12. Round 4 was one of the most one sided rounds, Pacquaio completely dominated marquez that round... to say anything else is ridiculous... he was making it look like he would stop Marquez, he landed a dozen left hands all of which were harder than anything Marquez landed that round

the fight went more like this, from my memory

round 1 Pacquaio 10-9
round 2 Marquez 10-9
round 3 Pacquaio 10-8
round 4 Pacquaio 10-9
round 5 Marquez ""
round 6 Marquez ""
round 7 Marquez ""
round 8 Pacquiao ""
round 9 Pacquaio ""
round 10 Pacquaio
round 11 Pacquaio
round 12 Marquez

Some of the later rounds I will have to rewatch, because I actually remember the begining of the fight a lot better, but until the 8th because by then I was getting frustrated with Pacman.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/...7cc3d806_o.jpg

I didn't see the fight, but I could already see the disparaging observations. This is going to be fire!

Any other scores out there?

1) Marquez 10-9
2) Marquez 10-9
3) Pacquiao 10-8
4) Pacquiao 10-9
5) Marquez 10-9
6) Marquez 10-9
7) Marquez 10-9
8) Marquez 10-9
9) Pacquiao 10-9
10) Pacquiao 10-9
11) Marquez 10-9
12) Marquez 10-9

Marquez 115 Pacquiao 112

Pacquiao says he wants no more more of Marquez, i am not surprised!

Does anyone have the punchstats ?

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Originally Posted by GAME

Does anyone have the punchstats ?

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i think jmm landed more ofcourse but pac threw more.

I had Pac up by a point.

Marquez Pacquiao Marquez Pacquiao Marquez Pacquiao
9 10 9 10 9 10
10 9 10 9 10 9
8 10 8 10 8 10
9 10 9 10 9 10
10 9 10 9 10 9
9 10 9 10 10 9
10 9 10 9 10 9
10 9 10 9 10 9
9 10 9 10 10 9
9 10 9 10 9 10
10 9 10 9 10 9
10 9 9 10 10 9
113 114 112 115 115 112
Tom Miller Duane Ford Jerry Roth

oooops got squashed but you get the idea yeah :rolleyes:

good work genghis. Can't belive second judge gave final round to Paqciao. I'll try and watch it again to score it properly but it was very close and determined by who you gave the close rounds to. Couldn't argue either way but it was a great match up, swinging one way then the other.

Yeah Pacquiao took a 3 point lead into the final 2 rounds on 2 score cards (96-93) so even if Ford scored final round to Marquez Pac-Man would still have won

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Originally Posted by ghengis cant

Yeah Pacquiao took a 3 point lead into the final 2 rounds on 2 score cards (96-93) so even if Ford scored final round to Marquez Pac-Man would still have won

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EXACTLY, jim mentioned jmm may have needed a knock out coming to the 12th round. the old guy had it a draw giving the 12 to pac, and stewart gave the 12 round to jmm but i can't remember who he thought won i don't think he mentioned it. lederman had the fight for pac via ud.

My new and improved scorecard.


1 Pacquiao 10-9
2 Marquez 10-9
3 Pacquiao 10-8
4 Pacquiao 10-9
5 Marquez 10-9
6 Marquez 10-9
7 Marquez 10-9
8 Marquez 10-9
9 Pacquiao 10-9
10 Pacquiao 10-9
11 Marquez 10-9
12 Marquez 10-9

114-113 Marquez

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Manny Clinched it in the 10th!

I listened to the interview of PAC and he did not say anything regarding not wanting to fight JMM again, he just said it's up to the promoter.
I'm all for the rubbermatch.