I agree. Hopkins is beating Calzaghe assQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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I agree. Hopkins is beating Calzaghe assQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think Hopkins style is one which Calzaghe will have trouble with. But i don't see a 43 year old Hopkins being active enough to take advantage of the trouble he will cause calzaghe.
Calzaghe sometimes loses his composure when he's in with a dirty fighter. He's also guilty of trying to impress too much and leaving himself open to straight rights.
I reckon Hopkins will get inside his head but i don't think he has the workrate or power to do anything other than make the fight a bit scrappy. Calzaghe should win on workrate alone.
UD calzaghe.....in a fight that will actually not really be that close but the judges will have it 115-113 ish.
Hopkins better be tip top fitness wise for this because JC will set off a fierce pace early on but i'm intruiged to see how the old master deals with it;)
Like i said i think he's got the experience to do it and force Joe to change his gameplan (which he will do) then back over to Hopkins to out think him in return.....
Can't wait for this one.:cool:
I don't see Hopkins "robbing" anyone. He is one of the more disliked fighters in boxing and if anything he'll be the one getting "robbed" just to be giving him the finger. Hopkins is easy to dislike. Other than being from another country (which is major), Joe Calzaghe is an immensely likeable guy. He beat the schmidt out of Lacy, a guy I really liked, and now I like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
one can only hope VD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI agree. Hopkins is beating Calzaghe assQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This fight is totally sneaking up on me.. i've been so busy with school work and stuff, the fight is right around the corner.. Def my most anticipated of the year til now..
I hope Hopkins makes it a dirty ass fight, and the vegas judges score a close fight which could go either way, a UD for Hopkins just like Joe has gotten some gifts in the past ;D..
Joe has gotten some *gifts* in the past ?? the only close fight he has ever had is against Robin Reid so i don't understand what you mean by *gifts*.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33one can only hope VD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI agree. Hopkins is beating Calzaghe assQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This fight is totally sneaking up on me.. i've been so busy with school work and stuff, the fight is right around the corner.. Def my most anticipated of the year til now..
I hope Hopkins makes it a dirty ass fight, and the vegas judges score a close fight which could go either way, a UD for Hopkins just like Joe has gotten some gifts in the past ;D..
Joe got a gift when the ref stopped his fight with Byron Mitchell prematurely. Even though Mitchell landed the last punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBJoe has gotten some *gifts* in the past ?? the only close fight he has ever had is against Robin Reid so i don't understand what you mean by *gifts*.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33one can only hope VD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This fight is totally sneaking up on me.. i've been so busy with school work and stuff, the fight is right around the corner.. Def my most anticipated of the year til now..
I hope Hopkins makes it a dirty ass fight, and the vegas judges score a close fight which could go either way, a UD for Hopkins just like Joe has gotten some gifts in the past ;D..
Getting "robbed" hasn't got anything to do with how likeable you are it's about situations and connections.Quote:
Originally Posted by liquidI don't see Hopkins "robbing" anyone. He is one of the more disliked fighters in boxing and if anything he'll be the one getting "robbed" just to be giving him the finger. Hopkins is easy to dislike. Other than being from another country (which is major), Joe Calzaghe is an immensely likeable guy. He beat the schmidt out of Lacy, a guy I really liked, and now I like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
1. This fight is a Golden Boy Promotion.. which favours Hopkins.
2. Calzaghe's a foreigner (as you stated ;)).
3. Hopkins has mentioned all through the making of this fight his motivation is AMERICA-vs-Britain.. this will only intensify when the promotion heats up nearer the off.
4. It's almost certain to be 3 American judges and a Hopkins freindly ref.
5. There's a strong chance Calzaghe's supporters will be as thick as Ricky Hatton's and boo the "The Star-Spangled Banner" before the off.. which will be the icing on the cake.
;)
I think it will be a really tough fight for Joe. As ICE says traditionally the fighters Calzaghe has had the most trouble with are those who employ rough house tactics and try to turn the fight into a physical brawl with headbutts, elbows, clinches etc.
There is nobody better at that in the whole of boxing than the Nard so it is a worry.
When you factor in that he is something like 11-0 against southpaws or something crazy, and on home turf, you really must like the odds that are on Hopkins.
It wouldn't suprise me if Joe gets caught like he's never been caught before and even hits the deck.
I see B Hops withering shots becoming more and more of a factor as the fight goes on.
It won't be an easy win for Joe at all in my mind.
Tough fight, made even tougher by the fact that most uneducated fans feel he should win easily. He's on something of a hiding to nothing.
....hopkins has the ability to beat anyone, joe is no different. Joe is probably going to be favored by most understandably, but how many times has hopkins been in that situation. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see hopkins win. It's a golden boy event, joe is a foreigner, american judges etc...all that stuff doesn't matter joe knows all this going in so that is more reason for him to cleary win this fight. The last thing we need is a close fight with a bunch of excuses afterward...he knows what he's up against yet he still signed the contract.....no excuses.
Add to the fact that Hopkins would never lose to a "White Boy." There's no doubt Calzaghe is losing his 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Can someone tell me why Hopkin's record against southpaws is such an important factor in their reasoning?
Calzaghe's never lost to an orthodox fighter.
Yeah but look at some the names he faced. You can beat half of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
exactly....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
by "gifts" i don't mean gift decisions, or anything specifically to the extent that Calzaghe got a win that he didn't completely deserve.. With the exception of few fights, Calzaghe has clearly beaten his opposition, don't get me wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBJoe has gotten some *gifts* in the past ?? the only close fight he has ever had is against Robin Reid so i don't understand what you mean by *gifts*.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33one can only hope VD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This fight is totally sneaking up on me.. i've been so busy with school work and stuff, the fight is right around the corner.. Def my most anticipated of the year til now..
I hope Hopkins makes it a dirty ass fight, and the vegas judges score a close fight which could go either way, a UD for Hopkins just like Joe has gotten some gifts in the past ;D..
what i'm saying is that he's constantly been fighting at home, with everything possible on his side.. The Robin Reid decision goes under this category, VD mentioned the Mitchell fight when Calzaghe first hit the deck, and there could have been controversy in that stoppage.. Even though Manfredo had no chance in hell to win their fight, but it was still one of, if not the worst stoppages i have seen.. He constantly has had this subconscious pampering.. that's all im saying.