Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
I can't see why Arum would make this fight, he's not an idiot. Pac most likely wins, even though Casa beat Katsidis and looked better than against Santa Cruz its clear he's slowed down, and say Pac looks impressive fans would say Casa was shot. No win really.
That being said I'm not sure who Pac goes after past the David Diaz fight. Juan's gotta work his way back up, not sure they really want Nate, Casa doesn't make good sense in a risk/reward type deal. Hatton's looking more and more likely really.
Not like I wouldn't mind seeing it as a fan, just realistically I doubt it happens.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
I'd love to see pac vs casa but like ouma said it is kinda of a no win for pac. When he wins people will just say casa is past it. I rather see guzman move up to 135 and match up with pac. I would also be interesting if valero will move up. I really think the lightweight is there for the taking now.
Pac
JMM
Guzman
Valero
all can make some noise at 135, while casa and campbell are on the decline I don't see them ruling for long maybe not even a year.
Even though guzman and jmm are "old" or alteast older then pac and valero, Imo they out last both casa and campbell. Unless we are wrong about guzman like how we were wrong about juan diaz. Jmm is a proven elite so Imo the only question for jmm is if he'll be comfortable at 135.
As for valero he too still have some things to prove, will he really be able to hang with the elites or will he be just like juan diaz or rocky jaurez.
David diaz imo is being look pass too much by us, i actually em excited to see pac vs david cause david is kinda old school you never know how well his doing with what his doing, you know?
Pac vs casa will be the cherry on top of all the fights though, it'll be the first elite southpaw vs elite soutpaw. there hasn't been much great southpaw, now we can see two going at it.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
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Julius Rain
I'd love to see pac vs casa but like ouma said it is kinda of a no win for pac. When he wins people will just say casa is past it. I rather see guzman move up to 135 and match up with pac. I would also be interesting if valero will move up. I really think the lightweight is there for the taking now.
Pac
JMM
Guzman
Valero
all can make some noise at 135, while casa and campbell are on the decline I don't see them ruling for long maybe not even a year.
Even though guzman and jmm are "old" or alteast older then pac and valero, Imo they out last both casa and campbell. Unless we are wrong about guzman like how we were wrong about juan diaz. Jmm is a proven elite so Imo the only question for jmm is if he'll be comfortable at 135.
As for valero he too still have some things to prove, will he really be able to hang with the elites or will he be just like juan diaz or rocky jaurez.
David diaz imo is being look pass too much by us, i actually em excited to see pac vs david cause david is kinda old school you never know how well his doing with what his doing, you know?
Pac vs casa will be the cherry on top of all the fights though, it'll be the first elite southpaw vs elite soutpaw. there hasn't been much great southpaw, now we can see two going at it.
I have a gut feeling PAC might be fighting both Valero and Guzman later, but definitely in 135 lbs.. Looking at Valero and Guzman's frames I can't believe how they were able to make it at 130 lbs. Framewise(bone structure) they're much bigger than PAC.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
Looking back Casamayor "pulled a rabbit out his hat" so to speak.
He should fight campbell next.
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Looking back Casamayor "pulled a rabbit out his hat" so to speak.
He should fight campbell next.
Casa vs Campbell. The winner will fight the winner of Pac vs Diaz. That's very interesting.:cool:
The good days of boxing in lightweight is back......
Thanks to Pacman.....;D
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
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Honestly? I don't think there is any 135-lb fighter in the world in boxing or MMA who could beat Pac. Nobody. :cool:
Fl!p "piss' Flash is this you ........fan boy.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
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ragintorent
Honestly? I don't think there is any 135-lb fighter in the world in boxing or MMA who could beat Pac. Nobody. :cool:
I am not even going to get into the 135lb division with you because your comments are made to just start trouble...But know it all Uriah Faber would beat Pac senseless inside of 2 minutes in an MMA affair
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ragintorent
Honestly? I don't think there is any 135-lb fighter in the world in boxing or MMA who could beat Pac. Nobody. :cool:
I am not even going to get into the 135lb division with you because your comments are made to just start trouble...But know it all Uriah Faber would beat Pac senseless inside of 2 minutes in an MMA affair
LOL even Tito Ortiz is a big fan of the PacMonster, stop this already.
Do you even know who Faber is?...and because Tito is a fan of Pacquiao it means Manny would beat any MMA star he is able to match weight with fairly?.....Tell you what instead of worrying about being a Pcquiao fan maybe Tito should work on his MMA game and get off the losing streak....When was the last elite MMA fighter in their prime he beat cleanly
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ragintorent
LOL Pac loses to all MMA fighters, this PacHating is really getting out of hand.
Who said to ALL MMA fighters...think I mentioned Faber only...
ANYHOW you are boring me now so I am done with you...
Your dismissed...Peasent...
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
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ragintorent
Honestly? I don't think there is any 135-lb fighter in the world in boxing or MMA who could beat Pac. Nobody. :cool:
dude, im a fan of pac but comments like these gets more people to discredit pac and hate us pacfans. just post fair and square man. no need to blow a bubble here. like i said before, anybody who could throw a punch is fair game. and i mean anybody.
on the other hand. why does all the people from 135 expects pac to come to their division so they could get some cash? why not come down to 130? its like trying to invade somebody yet you want them to come to you. i dont get it.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
i wouldn't mind seeing it but i don't think it will happen, casa should have a rematch with campbell.
Re: Sooooooo.....Should Joel be back in the running to face Manny?
this thread is hot with ragintorent. I am becoming his fan.hehehe.
I can remember my early days in this forum.;D
Just try to be cool sometimes ragin..... I would like you to be here when Pacquaio fights Diaz.:cool:
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ragintorent
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
ragintorent
LOL Pac loses to all MMA fighters, this PacHating is really getting out of hand.
Who said to ALL MMA fighters...think I mentioned Faber only...
ANYHOW you are boring me now so I am done with you...
Your dismissed...Peasent...
It's "peasant". Strike three, you're out. Go get an education you frigging illiterate.;)
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha....You are a LOSER...I knoew you would have nothing to say but make a spelling comment.....I can't believe that is all you have is spelling....I will continue to do it because it seems to bother you so much......
Though I would think living at home with your Mother at 45, working Burger King and thinking a great Friday night is catching a glimpse of her naked by walking into the shower mistakenly (AGAIN)...Then running into your room to IM some of your pals on the excitement of it all does not seem to bother you... so why does spilling? or is it spalling?...spelling?...does it matter really?.......Just as long as it bothers you to the point a shotgun ends up in your mouth and we change your name to Art:D