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If Tarver shows up with white crust around those big lips Woods knows he has it in the bag.
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It's simple: Just turn up on the night.
Re: How would you advise Woods to beat Tarver?
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If Tarver shows up with white crust around those big lips Woods knows he has it in the bag.
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Re: How would you advise Woods to beat Tarver?
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Hope and pray Tarver gets DQ'ed. It's the only chance Woods has to win
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If you were in charge of Woods training camp and strategy for this fight, how would you approach it tactically given Tarvers strengths ?
Woods appears to be pumped up so he should have no problem getting motivated after their eventful press con. Tarver is going to be looking to let his left hand go and Clinton can be a slow starter so I'd make sure I sent Woods out with a high guard and not give Tarver many opportunuities to counter early on - just work behind a left hand and feints. Woods has to apply educated pressure to the old man to make him work at an uncomfortable pace as we know he tires late on but he should force Tarver to lead by feinting and countering his shots .
Tarver IMO will try to tie Woods up when they are up close so Woods has to be prepared to work in the clinches . Keep Tarver walking backwards and maintain a workrate which is where he went wrong vs Johnson . In the middle rounds Woods can start letting his shots go in twos and threes rather than single shots. I expect Traver to begin showing signs of fatigue by the 8th. Although Woods has never been a busy fighter, he needs to be here . Take the fight to Tarver, not give him time to breathe, dont allow him any room and dont accept clicnhes . Its likley to go 12 and the hometown fighter is likley to get the nod so Woods has to go for it late on . Mix em up to body and head, keep the arms moving and hopeful the Tarver demons he suffered vs Hopkins will come back to haunt him .
Your thoughts?
If i was advising Clinton Woods how to beat Taver , well its simple it would be BEAT HIM TO DEATH as he is an anoying jumped up fuckwit of a human being , a total boil on the butt of mankind.
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If Woods can outpoint Tarver early with a higher output, Tarver will struggle later, his endurance isn't that great right now. From what I've seen of Woods he's the exact opposite though. In a slow paced fight Tarver will get the better of it. Woods needs to pressure early then go into defense mode potshotting once the fight goes later rounds constantly moving.
No contest - Interesting I agree with most of it but dont you think the pressure from Woods should come late instead of early ? Tarver will be gassing out later and if Woods turens up the heat then , it could swing his way. I see what you mean about pot shotting but if Wods applies pressure early theres more chance of him tasting that left hand like Jones did. If Woods is careful early then puts on the pressure I think its better than walking onto counters while Tarver is fresh then backing off when Tarver is tired .
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If you were in charge of Woods training camp and strategy for this fight, how would you approach it tactically given Tarvers strengths ?
Woods appears to be pumped up so he should have no problem getting motivated after their eventful press con. Tarver is going to be looking to let his left hand go and Clinton can be a slow starter so I'd make sure I sent Woods out with a high guard and not give Tarver many opportunuities to counter early on - just work behind a left hand and feints. Woods has to apply educated pressure to the old man to make him work at an uncomfortable pace as we know he tires late on but he should force Tarver to lead by feinting and countering his shots .
Tarver IMO will try to tie Woods up when they are up close so Woods has to be prepared to work in the clinches . Keep Tarver walking backwards and maintain a workrate which is where he went wrong vs Johnson . In the middle rounds Woods can start letting his shots go in twos and threes rather than single shots. I expect Traver to begin showing signs of fatigue by the 8th. Although Woods has never been a busy fighter, he needs to be here . Take the fight to Tarver, not give him time to breathe, dont allow him any room and dont accept clicnhes . Its likley to go 12 and the hometown fighter is likley to get the nod so Woods has to go for it late on . Mix em up to body and head, keep the arms moving and hopeful the Tarver demons he suffered vs Hopkins will come back to haunt him .
Your thoughts?
just tell him to turn up fit.
Re: How would you advise Woods to beat Tarver?
Re: How would you advise Woods to beat Tarver?
Since the great tarver says his style is so advanced that it is hard for judges appreciate use that against him, pressure and try and steal rounds. Do the b-hop stay competitive and safe for two minutes then let the hands go toward the end of the round. Also keep your hands up tarver doesn't always put his all into all his punches but it's hard to tell the difference, stick to the basics and don't anticipate too much.
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Hope and pray Tarver gets DQ'ed. It's the only chance Woods has to win
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Hope and pray Tarver gets DQ'ed. It's the only chance Woods has to win
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Yea even though i don't think Woods is great by any means he is still a solid fighter, he has a lot of heart, and he is tough and keeps coming. If this was a few years ago then i would have picked Tarver without hesitation. But Tarver has looked garbage in his last few fights and to be honest he has looked like a shot fighter for quite a long time, so yes im picking Woods.
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Woods allegedly is a better fighter than he was when RJJ beat him. I hadn't seen him before that and I haven't seen him since. That being said, the Tarver formula is simple: pressure and negate the left hook. If Woods can make Tarver burn himself out he can beat him. Tarver beat Glenn Johnson (effectively) with pitty-pat shots and playing keepaway. Woods needs to step inside the reach of those long arms and make him work to get him off. Dig to Tarver's body frequently and the Magic Man will look more like Merlin as the fight goes on.
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If Woods can outpoint Tarver early with a higher output, Tarver will struggle later, his endurance isn't that great right now. From what I've seen of Woods he's the exact opposite though. In a slow paced fight Tarver will get the better of it. Woods needs to pressure early then go into defense mode potshotting once the fight goes later rounds constantly moving.
No contest - Interesting I agree with most of it but dont you think the pressure from Woods should come late instead of early ? Tarver will be gassing out later and if Woods turens up the heat then , it could swing his way. I see what you mean about pot shotting but if Wods applies pressure early theres more chance of him tasting that left hand like Jones did. If Woods is careful early then puts on the pressure I think its better than walking onto counters while Tarver is fresh then backing off when Tarver is tired .
The reasoning is that Tarver doesn't overdo it early, he paces himself early so to tire him out you gotta get him to up his workrate to keep up on the scorecard, and if Woods can win some early rounds that way Tarver may open up more to compensate. If he can be up going into the late rounds then start the potshotting.
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You want to take Woods?
Yea even though i don't think Woods is great by any means he is still a solid fighter, he has a lot of heart, and he is tough and keeps coming. If this was a few years ago then i would have picked Tarver without hesitation. But Tarver has looked garbage in his last few fights and to be honest he has looked like a shot fighter for quite a long time, so yes im picking Woods.
Alright than. Your on. What are the terms?
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You want to take Woods?
Yea even though i don't think Woods is great by any means he is still a solid fighter, he has a lot of heart, and he is tough and keeps coming. If this was a few years ago then i would have picked Tarver without hesitation. But Tarver has looked garbage in his last few fights and to be honest he has looked like a shot fighter for quite a long time, so yes im picking Woods.
Alright than. Your on. What are the terms?
We will have a rep bet you can decide how much.