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Seems I already owe you rep. In the post mateQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQ
He IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I've got to agree with you JLAQ. Reps on your way.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JLAQHe IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I respect McGuigan as a fighter but he does normally get a lot of stuff wrong, and he just waffles on most of the time. Didn't he only have Lewis winning the 1st Holyfield vs Lewis fight by 1 point ??Quote:
Originally Posted by fugaziuk
Nvm misread.
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
A couple of things...Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
Well said caleoh. Reps on your way bro.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
A couple of things...Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
People keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
Diaz - paper champion with suspect chin and little powerQuote:
Originally Posted by onoPeople keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
Khan - too inexperienced
Valero - way too slow
talk about a very weak/pathetic follow up trio to JMM
Would rather see a JMM at the same weight class @ 135 way too advantageous for Pac.
How about Guzman, Soto, Valero ..... that other list is a joke !!Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeWell said caleoh. Reps on your way bro.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by caleoh12Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
A couple of things...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
1) The Khan fight taking place in Dubai and the Valero fight taking place in Mexico?! I don't think that will happen. Pacquiao is too big to fight somewhere other than Vegas. MAYBE if he fought Valero somewhere other than Vegas could happen cause of him having trouble getting cleared for fights in the US.
2) If he is actually going to fight Diaz then Khan then Valero, it's probably because of the criticism Pacquiao gets for only fighting people "past their primes" (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). But to be honest with you, if he does get past these guys, then people will just say "these guys weren't ready for Pacquiao" or "they were too young and not tested yet."
3) If he does go for the path were he encounters Campbell and Casamayor and beats them, then continues the whole "Campbell and Casamayor have seen better days" comments.
Fro pver aged to inadequate no if and buts hggers...... This schedule will only bring Pac ridicule and you are even aware of it and JMM has every right to be crying for a rematch as any competitive fighter or for that much human being that loses his title in that close of a fight. What ever happened to having to take the Champs belt away? Easy answer ....... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Many rounds could have gone either way but like any competive sport generally the tie goes to the runner / champion. Scratching my head 3 KD and close rounds earns JMM a tie 1 knockdown and more ring command ears him a loss ? Funny business, but too close to use the term robbery . Just a sad way to jade a champion in favor of a public figures reputation and earing potential for the sport.
Corley may not have high KO percentage but he can turn his opponents legs to jelly with one shot, you cannot compare Limond to Corley. Limond can't even stop fighters with losing records. I have seen Khan hurt few times by light punchers, after the Limond disaster why do you think Warren has only put him in with light punchers ??Quote:
Originally Posted by onoPeople keep saying this but i haven't seen any evidence to suggest he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Willie Limond hurt him with a shot to the temple. Very similar to the one Corley hurt Cotto with. Anybody can get ko'd from a temple shot....regardless of wether they are granite chinned or not.
I kinda agree with you but that also applies to how Pac will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. No one wants to se that proposed list ( apology Pac fans do and in no way do I mean this as a bad thing).Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftYep. I like him to concentrate on Diaz first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookkeeper
I've said this many times before,.. that after Pac's 2nd fight with JMM, he needs to start collecting belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Campbell, and Casa are all winnable for him. As for Pac-JMM 3, that's all depends on how Marquez will do against guys like Guzman, Soto, and Valero. I doubt that he would chase Pac at 135 this year.
D.Diaz, Campbell, Casa c'mon if you are a true boxing fan you do not wanna see this !!! what is Pac going to accomplish? You know the age thing is going to surface again vs Campbell & Casa and the lack of power and weak chin thing vs Diaz.
Pac the Dinosaur slayer !!!! Is this how you want your champion to be best remembered ? I say up the ante and keep the Destroyer tab !!!
I think Pac is the P4P but his proposed schedule will oust him from the postion even with winsQuote:
Originally Posted by KelSeems I already owe you rep. In the post mateQuote:
Originally Posted by JLAQHe IS the best p4p fighter. This is the year 2008, not 2002 where Floyd beat the only pfper he has ever fought in his career. And no, a 147 Hatton is NOT a p4per. Learn to make distinctions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master