Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
Because he always has foughten the best, and OScar is still in the top echelon of the sport, I mean besides Mayweather I don't see any other fighter really having an edge on Oscar, He definitely beats Margarito IMO, and Cotto against him would be a great fight, but just from seeing how close Cotto's fight wiht a 36 year old Mosley makes me think that maybe, MAYBE, Oscar might be too much for him.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
ODLH has proven throughout his career that he is not afraid of fighting the best. He has fought the best fighters of his generation and thats the most an elite fighter can do. He deserves an occasional easier fight especially at this stage in his career. Prime champions and elite fighters should go after the best like Oscar did in his best years. Cotto and Mayweather are both believed to be in their primes, Oscar is not. Oscar did as much as he could and made the best of his prime years by taking the hard fights, and even though he lost his undefeated record, he gain respect and built a solid legacy with no question marks.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
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Chino
I keep hearing all kinds of crap about ODLH because he's facing a not-so-challenging (or so it seems) opponent but Cotto vs Gomez was just totally acceptable and people praised it...why? :confused:
I have no problem watching De La Hoya smash Forbes
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
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Killersheep,
Of course he is working on a greater plan. After Forbes comes Mayweather. Cotto is doing the same. Of course, Margarito is nowhere close to Mayweather. So if you compare Cotto and ODLH. Both are facing a guy who is not as challenging but ODLH is facing someone who is waaaaaay better than Margarito so who's really facing a bigger challenge? I am puzzled everytime people also cry about ODLH vs Mayweather II. As if anybody else can come close to what ODLH did ending in a questionable split decision. I can understand people crying about Lewis vs Holyfield III or Mayweather vs Gatti II but ODLH vs Mayweather II is something different.
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You can't tell me with a straight face that Forbes is waaaaaay better than Margarito. Come on now, he may be slick, and he has been robbed (against D-hop), but what did we learn in the D-hop fight, we learned that Forbes can be hit as often as he hits. That being said what's gonna happen fight night When ODLH walks in the ring at 160 (fully rehydrated) and Forbes is 149 (fully hydrated) Early KO. It's kind of funny because you have lumped me in with everyone in thinking Cotto would beat Mayweather, while quite on the contrary, I think Mayweather would outbox Cotto, en route to a UD. But back to the point at hand. I give ODLH crap about taking this fight because again IT IS THE ONLY FIGHT HE'S TAKING THIS YEAR.
You probably misunderstood...I'll say it again. Both, Cotto and ODLH, faced 2 guys that were probably not a threat at all. So people should have the same attitude as with Cotto who faced someone similiar. Now, who is Cotto fighting next and who is ODLH fighting next?...Well? Can we say that Margarito is a bigger challenge than Mayweather? ;)
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
It wasn't ,I didnt and wont be buying odlh forbes either.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
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Majesty
In the last 5 years Oscar has had 4 fights..
ALL main event, ALL for multi million dollars.
There's no such thing as a "stay busy" fight for Oscar, he isnt after any titles or any type of legacy, he is just making money off of his name for as long as his body lets him.
He shouldnt even be ranked imo. He has fought 4 times in the last 5 years how the heck is this guy ranked ???
Dam dam good posting. You'r back on the winning trail my man. especially after the big mistakes you were making, asking whether Cotto would fight Tony etc Good poting though,well said and total common sense. Oscar is ranked because he's Oscar. Anyone else wouldn't be but there is no other fighter out there with such blind followers.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
So let me see if i get this straight....some of you don't like the fact that Oscar makes a lot of money when he fights. Or you don't like that he isn't super active yet he still makes tons of money? Why does Oscar make so much money? Could it be that he is popular....that people pay money (like most people on this board) to watch him fight...that his celebrity inside and outside of the ring puts butts in the seats and sells PPV's? You blame him for that?! If it was Cotto, or Floyd, or nearly any other boxer....they wouldn't do that or want to be in that position (especially later in their careers)?! If people are as tired as some of you claim to see Oscar fight...they wouldn't pay to see him. But bottom line...most people do pay to see him. And considering he is still a competitive fighter that generates excitement and brings popularity to the sport...not sure what the problem is. No one is forcing Floyd to fight Oscar. It's a business people. And if Cotto had the choice to fight the p4p king in Floyd or fight the mega popular/bigger money fight in Oscar...he, and his handlers, wouldn't hesitate to pick the Oscar fight. Stop hating...it's just how the business of sports works.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
Oscar is taking on a guy that is naturally 3 divisions lower than him.
Gomez was the biggest guy Cotto ever faced
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
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El Gamo
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
In the last 5 years Oscar has had 4 fights..
ALL main event, ALL for multi million dollars.
There's no such thing as a "stay busy" fight for Oscar, he isnt after any titles or any type of legacy, he is just making money off of his name for as long as his body lets him.
He shouldnt even be ranked imo. He has fought 4 times in the last 5 years how the heck is this guy ranked ???
Dam dam good posting. You'r back on the winning trail my man. especially after the big mistakes you were making, asking whether Cotto would fight Tony etc Good poting though,well said and total common sense. Oscar is ranked because he's Oscar. Anyone else wouldn't be but there is no other fighter out there with such blind followers.
He shouldnt be in any p4p-list, but to say he shouldnt be ranked at all (at 154) is a bit silly. Afaik most rankings has a clause that says that a fighter needs to have been active within the last 12 months.
It hasnt been 12 months since Oscar's last fight. And it wasn't 12 months before that either. And since he should be ranked based on beating Ricardo Mayorga for a title - no matter what you think of Mayorga, he was surely top 10 - he should still be there. After all he was losing to the p4p no. 1 guy, so it cannot hurt his ranking that much.
Also, Winky is still ranked at despite having only fought once in 1½ year - and he too lost that one. And Winky is even ranked at Middleweight where he has _no_ fights in And to take another light middleweight: Daniel Santos. Not too many fights on his recent resume either.
Re: Why is Cott vs Gomez totally acceptable but not ODLH vs Forbes?
Both fights are unacceptable.
Gomez shouldn't have even been in the same town as Cotto. An absolute joke.
Goes to show that Boxing is more of a business than it is a sport.
Same with Hatton - Lazcano......just so much money to be made from fighting shit fighters.