Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
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Originally Posted by
amat
Well you have to rate this as Calzaghe's biggest victory because, well he went to the states to do it. I'd say it goes like this. Not as legendary as Honneyghan but certainly it ranks up there as one of the greatest on paper even though I agree with those in the thread that think Joe didn't look all to spectacular.
Agreed.
Bhop showed why he is a great fighter, any guy who can score a very close loss to joe calzaghe at age 43 and has the talent to almost nullify joe right up until the last rounds shows his worth in boxing. Bhop beat winky and tarver aswell.
I cant see how it is better than lenox vs tyson or lenox holyfield though.
I think that lenox made the better wins in the us.
Honneyghan aswell.
But in the end it is what it is, hopefully joe calzaghe will fight pavlik in madison sq and it will be a real cracker of a fight and if joe wins that one then it might be ranked as the best uk win.
WHO CARES ABOUT UK VS US ANYWAY?
Theres never been a uk vs us rivalry, we are allies in war, we are long term allies and trade together, we have simmilar societies and mutual respect. Boxing isnt a battle of nations, it is a battle of 2 athletes against each other, its not the olympics where they represent each nation.
Aha...infact...the best gb victory over usa was when lenox lewis fought riddick boe in the olympics and won...because this was when two countries were being represented and going head to head;)
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
The ref carried Hopkins through the fight or he would have been stopped. With a fair ref Calzaghe would have won much more clearly than he did.
Calzaghe? get stopped by Calzaghe? Are you freaking serious?
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
The ref carried Hopkins through the fight or he would have been stopped. With a fair ref Calzaghe would have won much more clearly than he did.
Calzaghe? get stopped by Calzaghe? Are you freaking serious?
Well, calzaghe does throw some wide hooks that swing in, but they are ussually accurate and on target...i guess theres a tiny possibility that hopkins would clinch and turn him as hes firing a wide hook and hits himself in the chin and ko's himself?;);)
Just messin mate from your typo hehe, dont mean offense, just jokin around:)
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
To be honest I thought BHop came out of this fight better than Calzaghe.
Joe was expected to win, BHop was 43 years old. In the end it was a razor thin win for Calzaghe in a fight in which it really could have gone the other way given a different set of judges.
I thought Calzgaghe would win a relatively comfortable decision but the Nard almost pulled it out.
People keep saying this like Calzaghe is 21 or something.
Joe is just as battle worn as B-Hop.
B-Hop's style means that being a 43 year old isn't as much as a factor as a Ricky Hatton still fighting at 43. He's just such an awkward fight for anybody.
If you look at his recent opponents
Taylor twice (very close fights....boring as hell)
Winky (close fight but B-Hop won)
Tarver (B-Hop embarrassed him)
Going by how well he did against these 3 fighters, age doesn't seem to be that much of a factor. His stye is the biggest factor. He's so cagey, dirty, intelligent, wiley etc...and i was very surprised at the speed of his straight right.
The fight pretty much panned out how i expected it to. Quite a cagey affair. I thought Calzaghe won 115-112 but i'm going to re-watch it and score the fight soberly.
I think both guys come out of this with great credit.
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
To be honest I thought BHop came out of this fight better than Calzaghe.
Joe was expected to win, BHop was 43 years old. In the end it was a razor thin win for Calzaghe in a fight in which it really could have gone the other way given a different set of judges.
I thought Calzgaghe would win a relatively comfortable decision but the Nard almost pulled it out.
People keep saying this like Calzaghe is 21 or something.
Joe is just as battle worn as B-Hop.
B-Hop's style means that being a 43 year old isn't as much as a factor as a Ricky Hatton still fighting at 43. He's just such an awkward fight for anybody.
If you look at his recent opponents
Taylor twice (very close fights....boring as hell)
Winky (close fight but B-Hop won)
Tarver (B-Hop embarrassed him)
Going by how well he did against these 3 fighters, age doesn't seem to be that much of a factor. His stye is the biggest factor. He's so cagey, dirty, intelligent, wiley etc...and i was very surprised at the speed of his straight right.
The fight pretty much panned out how i expected it to. Quite a cagey affair. I thought Calzaghe won 115-112 but i'm going to re-watch it and score the fight soberly.
I think both guys come out of this with great credit.
There is a difference though ONO, Calzaghe looked like he was in his absolute prime against Kessler, where as except the Tarver fight, Hopkins hadn't looked good in quite some time.
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
Being a fan of both fighters (Hopkins first) I have to say...a win is a win is a win as long as it is legit.
Calzaghe won that fight...period. Close or not...he still won.
The fact of the matter is this : both men, IWHO, were exceptional fighters & between them both men were known for being awkward, technical, old school, fundamentally sound, cagey, unbeatable, throwbacks, & so on & so on...& in the end I saw both men take one another out of their respective zones & games.
The fight may have been ugly to some...but to those of you who watched it as fans...you should have gotten what you wanted.
Me...I was just glad to see the two finally meet.
Calzaghe's win over Hopkins was more impressive to me than Roy Jones's win over Hopkins because it came at a time when Hopkins was in the better of his game.
Jones fought a greener Hopkins & Calzaghe fought a late prime Hopkins still able to take men to task.
View it how you want...but it was an accomplishment for Joe.
One thing that always bothered me about Hopkins as a fan was the age factor & how he used it accordingly win, lose, or draw.
Re: Calzaghe's Win Over Hopkins.................
Calzaghe didn't win the fight, and compubox was out to lunch for the fight so I don't rate it as win for him. I think it was impressive what he was able to do against Hopkins despite that fact, but Hopkins landed way more clean punches and made Calzaghe look foolish quite a few times in that fight. I thought it was really close fight, but I think Hopkins distinctly beat Calzaghe.
