How do you see Jermain Taylor doing now at super-middle ??

I don't see him doing well period.
I'm sure he'll be around and that's due to the name...

The one thing that's always stood out for me and is one of the 1st things that comes to mind is JT himself saying he wanted to retire young and that there was no one for him to fight.

Well becareful what you wish for, early retirement might be right around the corner. :)

I think adding JT to the mix at 168 is a good idea for him and the division as a whole. I don't think he could beat everyone there, but he could make a definate impression if he decides to go for the upper level guys right away. I would love to see him fight Bute, Kessler or Mundine.

I wouldn't mind him taking one fight as a warm up, like Manfredo Jr. or Lacy. Either on of those guys should bring out the best in JT.

I think taylor will do well at super middle. I think he can get hold of a belt at least.

I dont think he appeals to calzaghe to fight him because calzaghe can command a much higher paid fight with a fighter like pavlik or jones for his last say 2 fights. If they fought then id say calzaghe would beat taylor.

Taylor would probably take out bute imo.

Hed do well against andrade and mundine aswell, id say hed beat them both.

The hardest opponent would be against kessler. If kessler brings his best game then i think kessler will beat taylor. I think kessler is a better all round fighter. Kessler could handle most fighters out there tbh, its just that calzaghe had too much ring craft and can adapt to anyone in the ring which made him almost impossible for kessler to beat. But against taylor it would be a very evenly fought match but id say kessler wins.

I think that when calzaghe gives up his belts and retires after he beats jones and pavlik, then it will be upto taylor and kessler to battle out for top spot at super middle.

HOWEVER!!! Supermiddle might become very VERY interesting in the next couple of years.

Look at it this way:

Calzaghe beats jones at light heavy and then has one last fight with pavlik at super middle in a title defence. He casts aside pavlik and then retires undefeated. BUT this leaves pavlik at super middle aswell, afterall pavlik has done everything he can at middle weight (providing he beats lockett and abraham which i think he will). He will have fougt calzaghe at super middle and lost, this leaves him stranded at super middle. He is still young so he surely will carry on boxing?

We might be seeing pavlik, miranda, taylor, bute, andrade, mundine and kessler all in THE SAME DIVISION AT THE SAME TIME!!!

This would make for a very exciting division, surely everyone must agree?

Jeremaine Taylor can do as well as he wants at Super Midleweight.
His otential is virtually limitless if he remedies his Zab Judah syndrome.

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Originally Posted by LondonBB

I think taylor will do well at super middle. I think he can get hold of a belt at least.

I dont think he appeals to calzaghe to fight him because calzaghe can command a much higher paid fight with a fighter like pavlik or jones for his last say 2 fights. If they fought then id say calzaghe would beat taylor.

Taylor would probably take out bute imo.

Hed do well against andrade and mundine aswell, id say hed beat them both.

The hardest opponent would be against kessler. If kessler brings his best game then i think kessler will beat taylor. I think kessler is a better all round fighter. Kessler could handle most fighters out there tbh, its just that calzaghe had too much ring craft and can adapt to anyone in the ring which made him almost impossible for kessler to beat. But against taylor it would be a very evenly fought match but id say kessler wins.

I think that when calzaghe gives up his belts and retires after he beats jones and pavlik, then it will be upto taylor and kessler to battle out for top spot at super middle.

HOWEVER!!! Supermiddle might become very VERY interesting in the next couple of years.

Look at it this way:

Calzaghe beats jones at light heavy and then has one last fight with pavlik at super middle in a title defence. He casts aside pavlik and then retires undefeated. BUT this leaves pavlik at super middle aswell, afterall pavlik has done everything he can at middle weight (providing he beats lockett and abraham which i think he will). He will have fougt calzaghe at super middle and lost, this leaves him stranded at super middle. He is still young so he surely will carry on boxing?

We might be seeing pavlik, miranda, taylor, bute, andrade, mundine and kessler all in THE SAME DIVISION AT THE SAME TIME!!!

This would make for a very exciting division, surely everyone must agree?

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I personally don't see Joe beat Pavlik. Yea Joe has an amazing work rate but Pavlik's work rate is just as active but the difference is, Pavlik's punches HURT! I don't think Joe has ever encountered a fighter like Pavlik. It would be a great fight, but Pavlik wins by late KO IMO.

But I agree on Joe beating Jones...

I think Taylor will be a big factor assuming he has his head together after the 2 losses to Pavlik...Assuming the Taylor of old who would go in and box smart while not going in and doing just enough to eek out a win is the version of Taylor that arrives in the division he should be one of the top guys...

He will need to be focused because the top guys in the division have solid jaws and these will be fights Taylor has to go the distance each time out

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

I think Taylor will be a big factor assuming he has his head together after the 2 losses to Pavlik...Assuming the Taylor of old who would go in and box smart while not going in and doing just enough to eek out a win is the version of Taylor that arrives in the division he should be one of the top guys...

He will need to be focused because the top guys in the division have solid jaws and these will be fights Taylor has to go the distance each time out

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I think Taylor fought the way he did against Pavlik the first time because he had something to prove. Which was why I thought he was willing to trade. The second time around with
Pavlik, I thought Taylor would've won the fight if he didn't slow down so much in the later rounds. The way he fought Pavlik the second time would be a great way to fight at supermiddle weight, with the exception of slowing down at the end.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Jeremaine Taylor can do as well as he wants at Super Midleweight.
His otential is virtually limitless if he remedies his Zab Judah syndrome.

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I agree with that and would like to add that Pavlik has shown the others how to beat Taylor with constant pressure and hard punching power, Kessler has the tools to do the job, would be a very close fight if Taylors mentally tough on the night.