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Mind - Ali
Chin - Holyfield
Speed - Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Foreman
Heart - Holyfield
I know for chin that you may find Holyfield a strange choice, but he had an iron chin and would take bombs in order to get his own punches in time and time again.
the combination of speed an power id give to tyson. Over all Ali. He hurt guys with his fists and words.
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Originally Posted by jmbtandy
Tua did get knockout in the amateurs by Felix Savon though, and was down against Rahman, although not hurt. McCall was Tyson's cheif sparring partner and apparently has never been on the canvas in the ring or in the gym, thats toughQuote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Have to agree with the work rate, Frazier was a machine, that boy just kept coming
McCall and Tyson supposedly dropped each other around 5 times through their sparring
Mind - Ali
Chin - Oliver Mcall
Speed - Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Foreman
Heart - Rocky
Conditioning - Holyfield
mind - ali
chin - chuvalo
hand speed - tyson
footwork - ali
stamina - marciano
punch power - shavers
money punch - fraziers left hook
heart - holyfield
longevity - joe louis ( no ones ever come near his time and defences as champ )
Mind - Muhammad Ali
Chin - George Chuvalo
Speed - Muhammad Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Straight Right - Lennox Lewis
Right Hook - Mike Tyson
Left Hook - Joe Frazier
Power - Ernie Shavers
Heart - Evander Holyfield
If I have to break it down...
Mental makeup: Joe Louis - he came to win every fight he had, he was the greatest champion, the toughest physically and mentally. If Joe put his mind to it he could have beaten ANYONE
Physical makeup: Prime George Foreman 6'4 220-230 - The most intimidating person you could ever set foot in the ring with. He was HUGE for that time but not so big to where he was clumsy and he was rugged.
Chin: George Chuvalo - He got KO'd before but he didn't get knocked down and he fought Frazier AND Foreman
Footwork: Riddick Bowe - everyone talks about Ali's footwork but with Ali he didn't sit on his punches and get the big power off of them and Riddick did! Riddick could stick and move and he could stalk someone down he was VERY athletic.
Hand Speed: Muhamed Ali - Ali could throw punches really quick when he wanted to and in bunches too.
Power: Vitali Klitschko - He doesn't really have that 1 shotgun blast type of power but he's KO'd all but 1 guy who he has beaten and he has stopped guys in late rounds. He accumulates punishment, can KO someone with a combination, AND he carries his power late into fights.
Jab: Wladimir Klitschko - It's basically a power punch when he throws it...I think it's more dominant than Larry Holmes' jab but maybe that's just me.
Right Cross: Joe Louis - He threw it quick, straight, was always in range AND it was devistating.
Left Hook: Joe Frazier - Come on, did anyone bar Tyson have a hook that came close to matching Joe's???
Uppercut: (right) Lennox Lewis/ (left) Mike Tyson - Lennox had a longer uppercut and probably more powerful but Tyson's was faster and devistating as well.
Right Hook: George Foreman - when he threw it and landed it, it hurt everyone who watched it.
Overhand Right: Rocky Marciano's 'Suzy Q' - The one he landed on Joe Walcott might be the hardest anyone has EVER hit someone
To Lyle re klitsckos jab vs Larry Holmes..
yes.....its just you....
But seriously.... both klits have good strong straight jabs due to thier style and excellent schooling. Tall strong and long armed.
BUT! Larrys jab was like a 2x4 coming at you end on. it really fuckin hurt. ( wil i be banned AGaiN for swearing?)
What about a punch breakdown ie best left hook right cross etc?
Don't understand why you would mix and match all these fighters? :confused:
Mine is simple, Jack Johnson. :cool:
landmines answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Nikolay Valuev :D
I see Oliver McCall listed a lot for "best chin." I'll admit to being a bit biased against McCall, especially after his nuclear meltdown against Lewis in their 2nd fight. To me he's a wasted talent, who caught a lucky break against a careless Lewis and had his 2 seconds of fame. The rematch was shameful, and everyone in attendance should've gotten their money back.
Best chin to me is Holyfield.
You think Jack Johnson is better than Joe Louis???Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I don't recall Jack Johnson getting KO'd by Max Schmelling.
I don't recall Joe Louis getting KO'd by a guy named Jess ;D
I agree, since that only happened when Johnson was THIRTY SEVEN years old in the TWENTY SIXTH ROUND. Nice catch there beany:)