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I would say so, Torres is one hell of a fighter. His one loss was almost a KO of Cotto, granted I thought Holt got shafted looking forward for that rematch. But 140 actually has some talent, Holt, Torres, and Ortiz. I agree with VD that Victor Ortiz will prob be rulling this division very soon.
yes if lazcono coming off 15 month layoff can hurt him
torres can put him on a sretcher
I dont think Torres would be able to handle rickys pace for 12 rounds though. No way he could demonstrate a chin like Juan Lazcano had. I think it would be a good fight whilst it was lasting but Hatton would knockout him out mid to late rounds.
For starters I gotta disagree with the term 'shot fighter'...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Sure Hatton at times didn't look good but he also had some great moments although in spurts...
As we've seen Hatton eats left hooks as much as he eats food. So Torres has the oppourtunity there BUT let's not forget Torres can't take body shots the 1st well connected hook that Cotto threw at him dropped him and he didn't get up so Hattons got the advantage there.
I see this one 50/50 right now.
I agree with that Mick. If I was a Hatton fan I'd be nervous watching this one cause of Torres power in the left hook but I don't really think Torres is that good over all. If Hatton could fight a little smarter and hang on when he gets hurt he could definitely come on late.
Mick when i said shot fighter i was going by what people said on here, now i have just watched the fight for the first time today i totally disagree with people calling Hatton shot fighter. I think Hatton looked good throwing double hooks to the body and his free flowing combinations, i said Lazcano would give Hatton some trouble and that was good for Hatton, that he went 12 competitive rounds in his comeback fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickFor starters I gotta disagree with the term 'shot fighter'...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Sure Hatton at times didn't look good but he also had some great moments although in spurts...
As we've seen Hatton eats left hooks as much as he eats food. So Torres has the oppourtunity there BUT let's not forget Torres can't take body shots the 1st well connected hook that Cotto threw at him dropped him and he didn't get up so Hattons got the advantage there.
I see this one 50/50 right now.
Hatton is yet again making a mistake by leaping in with his chin in the air and he was caught with the exact same punch Mayweather floored him with, "Check Left Hook". I did notice Torres was having some problems taking body shots from Cotto but lets remember Torres did only take that fight on 2 weeks notice so that may of had something to do with it but i don't know im just speculating.
I think Torres would have a great chance at KO'ing Hatton and i have said this even before Hatton's fight with Lazcano, Torres is the only real fighter at Jr Welterweight that can bang hard enough to KO Hatton. And with Hatton's leaky defense i think thats strong possibility that Torres could end the fight quickly before Hatton gets a chance to work on his midsection but we will see.
Yeah, I realized that once I saw the other thread you did about watching the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMick when i said shot fighter i was going by what people said on here, now i have just watched the fight for the first time today i totally disagree with people calling Hatton shot fighter. I think Hatton looked good throwing double hooks to the body and his free flowing combinations, i said Lazcano would give Hatton some trouble and that was good for Hatton, that he went 12 competitive rounds in his comeback fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickFor starters I gotta disagree with the term 'shot fighter'...Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Sure Hatton at times didn't look good but he also had some great moments although in spurts...
As we've seen Hatton eats left hooks as much as he eats food. So Torres has the oppourtunity there BUT let's not forget Torres can't take body shots the 1st well connected hook that Cotto threw at him dropped him and he didn't get up so Hattons got the advantage there.
I see this one 50/50 right now.
Hatton is yet again making a mistake by leaping in with his chin in the air and he was caught with the exact same punch Mayweather floored him with, "Check Left Hook". I did notice Torres was having some problems taking body shots from Cotto but lets remember Torres did only take that fight on 2 weeks notice say that may of had something to do with it but i don't know im just speculating.
I think Torres would have a great chance at KO'ing Hatton and i have said this even before Hatton's fight with Lazcano, Torres is the only real fighter at Jr Welterweight that can bang hard enough to KO Hatton. And with Hatton's leaky defense i think thats strong possibility that Torres could end the fight quickly before Hatton gets a chance to work on his midsection but we will see.
Hattons gonna eat left hooks and someone who can hook well and take his arsenal wil beat him. It should also be noted that Lazcano is a hard puncher regardless if he fought at Lightweight that was years ago. He's now at 140 and has been there for years.
Hatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
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Originally Posted by gyrokaiHatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
its to be expected
fighting with his style has endless limitations, its quite acheivable at 25-26 but come your early 30s you will naturally lose that ability to fight on the inside for 36 constant minutes.
Everyone keeps using the tszyu fight as hattons benchmark. That particular fight worked well for ricky because the 2 styles were so similar and it was rickys age and aggression that got him through that night against probably a much better technical exponent that lady time caught up with.
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by gyrokaiHatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
its to be expected
fighting with his style has endless limitations, its quite acheivable at 25-26 but come your early 30s you will naturally lose that ability to fight on the inside for 36 constant minutes.
Everyone keeps using the tszyu fight as hattons benchmark. That particular fight worked well for ricky because the 2 styles were so similar and it was rickys age and aggression that got him through that night against probably a much better technical exponent that lady time caught up with.
I don't follow that range of thought.
Hatton's young. He gets tired TOO easy. It's not like he's a Frazier, who had HELL fights, before you could see that he aged. Hell, Frazier could fight when he was 30. Hatton has had stamina problems years ago, heh, which is pretty pathetic. Even by the standards of today, when fighters ONLY fight at most twice a year. Hatton just barely started sparring, so the sparring hasn't aged him. And his fights were busy in the past, but they weren't wear and tear fights. They weren't wars at all. This is even before the Floyd KO, he's been struggling with stamina, even before Collazo he didn't have a "war" type fight.
Who knows, maybe Hatton's taking drugs. heh