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True, on reflection I would just leave 140 lbs vacant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Don't quite understand. Hatton lost at 147Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboBy this logic then Hatton shouldn't be champ at 140.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Not disagreeing with you, I like your logic.
Maybe just remove the division altogether.
That explains thatQuote:
Originally Posted by onoDon't quite understand. Hatton lost at 147Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboBy this logic then Hatton shouldn't be champ at 140.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Not disagreeing with you, I like your logic.
200+: Wladimir Klitschko
200: David Haye
175: Joe Calzaghe
168: Joe Calzaghe (seeing how he hasn't decided if he's gonna stay at 175)
160: Kelly Pavlik
154: Vernon Forrest
147: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
140: Ricky Hatton (barely)
135: Nate Campbell/Joel Casamayor
130: Manny Pacquiao
126: Jorge Linares
122: Israel Vazquez
118: Hozumi Hasegawa
115: Cristian Mijares
112: Takefumi Sakata
108: Ivan Calderon
105: Yutaka Niida
A pretty sound list except at 112 Nonito Donaire rightfully gets the nod because of the old addage "To be the man you have to beat the man" and he beat the man.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
It is a toss up between Solis and Calderon at 108. Other then that a good list
I think we should start the Saddo Belt. Lineal champs, start by giving a boxer the belt and then they would have to lose it in the ring, vacate or retire. Just like the Ring's titles, but we could pick where it starts.
Anyone interested?
that sounds like a great idea! Be a great addition to the site!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Ok here's the rules. A fighter needs to get 15 votes to become champ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philthat sounds like a great idea! Be a great addition to the site!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Let's start with the Heavyweights
I vote for Wlad
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200+: Wladimir Klitschko - 7 votes
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200: David Haye - 4 votes
Firat Arlsan - 1 vote
Jean Marc Mormeck - 1 vote
Steve Cunningham - 1 vote
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175: Joe Calzaghe - 6 votes
Bernard Hopkins - 1 vote
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168: Mikkel Kessler - 2 votes
Lucien Bute - 2 votes
Joe Calzaghe - 3 votes
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160: Kelly Pavlik - 7 votes
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154: Oscar de la Hoya - 2 votes
Vernon Forrest - 4 votes
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147: Floyd Mayweather Jr. - 5 votes
Miguel Cotto - 2 votes
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140: Ricky Hatton - 7 votes
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135: Nate Campbell - 3 votes
Juan Diaz - 1 vote
Joel Casamayor - 2 votes
David Diaz - 1 vote
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130: Manny Pacqiuao - 6 votes
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1 vote
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126: Jorge Linares - 5 votes
Chris John - 2 votes
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122: Israel Vazquez - 5 votes
Daniel Ponce de Leon - 1 vote
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118: Hozumi Hasegawa - 5 votes
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115: Cristian Mijares - 5 votes
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112: Takefumi Sakata - 4 votes
Nonito Donaire - 2 votes
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108: Ulises Solis - 2 votes
Ivan Calderon - 3 votes
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105: Yutaka Niida - 5 votes
I think it would be too similar to the Ring rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I'd like a Hit List and Shit List with the current top 10 p4p most popular fighters and the current top 10 p4p most hated and detested. The criteria for popularity would be, whose most talked about, who has the most exciting fight options etc.
For hated it can be about those who have outstayed their welcome in the sport, whose fighting style is dull and not conducive to excitement and to those who contribute nothing good to the sport other than the prospect of them suffering catastrophic knockouts.
I'll start with my own non biased lists.
Hit List
1. Calzaghe
2. Floyd
3. Manny
4. Cotto
5. Pavlik
6. Khan
7. Margarito
8. Froch
9. Molitor
10.Vazquez
Shit List
1. Hatton.
2. Anthony Small
3. David Haye
4. De La Hoya
5. Mijares
6. Sturm
7. Malignaggi
8. Clottey
9. Katsidis
10.Cintron
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Originally Posted by BilboI think it would be too similar to the Ring rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I'd like a Hit List and Shit List with the current top 10 p4p most popular fighters and the current top 10 p4p most hated and detested. The criteria for popularity would be, whose most talked about, who has the most exciting fight options etc.
For hated it can be about those who have outstayed their welcome in the sport, whose fighting style is dull and not conducive to excitement and to those who contribute nothing good to the sport other than the prospect of them suffering catastrophic knockouts.
I'll start with my own non biased lists.
Hit List
1. Calzaghe
2. Floyd
3. Manny
4. Cotto
5. Pavlik
6. Khan
7. Margarito
8. Froch
9. Molitor
10.Vazquez
Shit List
1. Hatton.
2. Anthony Small
3. David Haye
4. De La Hoya
5. Mijares
6. Sturm
7. Malignaggi
8. Clottey
9. Katsidis
10.Cintron
Over half the divisions according to the Ring are vacant.
I'm guessing the same would be true for our own rankings. And the actual top ranked guy would still be the same in virtually all cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboI think it would be too similar to the Ring rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I'd like a Hit List and Shit List with the current top 10 p4p most popular fighters and the current top 10 p4p most hated and detested. The criteria for popularity would be, whose most talked about, who has the most exciting fight options etc.
For hated it can be about those who have outstayed their welcome in the sport, whose fighting style is dull and not conducive to excitement and to those who contribute nothing good to the sport other than the prospect of them suffering catastrophic knockouts.
I'll start with my own non biased lists.
Hit List
1. Calzaghe
2. Floyd
3. Manny
4. Cotto
5. Pavlik
6. Khan
7. Margarito
8. Froch
9. Molitor
10.Vazquez
Shit List
1. Hatton.
2. Anthony Small
3. David Haye
4. De La Hoya
5. Mijares
6. Sturm
7. Malignaggi
8. Clottey
9. Katsidis
10.Cintron
Over half the divisions according to the Ring are vacant.
I just want to wanted the opportunity to post my shit list really.
200+ Wlad Klitschko (ukr)
200 Firat Arslan (ger)
175 Joe Calzaghe (gb)
168 Lucian Bute (rom)
160 Kelly Pavlik (usa)
154 Oscar De la Hoya (usa)
147 Floyd Mayweather (usa)
140 Ricky Hatton (gb)
135 Juan Diaz (mex)
130 Juan Manuel Marquez (mex)
126 Jorge Linares (ven)
122 Israel Vazquez (mex)
updated with votes from
Killersheep
Violent Demise
Hattonthehammer
Leftylee
ElTerribleMorales
I'm with the Ringy-ding-ding.
200+: Wladimir Klitschko (I just don't like this guy)
200: David Haye
175: Joe Calzaghe
168: Joe Calzaghe
160: Kelly Pavlik
154: Oscar De La Hoya
147: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
140: Ricky Hatton
135: David Diaz
130: Manny Pacquiao
126: Jorge Linares
122: Israel Vazquez
118: Hozumi Hasegawa
115: Cristian Mijares
112: Takefumi Sakata
108: Ivan Calderon
105: Yutaka Niida
200+: Wladimir Klitschko
200: David Haye
175: Joe Calzaghe
168: Joe Calzaghe
160: Kelly Pavlik
154: Vacant
147: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
140: Ricky Hatton
135: Nate Campbell
130: Manny Pacquiao
126: Chris John
122: Israel Vazquez
118: Hozumi Hasegawa
115: Cristian Mijares
112: Nonito Donaire
108: Ivan Calderon
105: Yutaka Niida