Favourite and Least Favourite American fighters and why....

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

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Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

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Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

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Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

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Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

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Ignore Hopkins all you want, he Butts, hits and holds habitually as well as shoulder butts... Evander is a fighter not your kids school teacher he should be judged on his craft, since thats whats relevant

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

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Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

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Ignore Hopkins all you want, he Butts, hits and holds habitually as well as shoulder butts... Evander is a fighter not your kids school teacher he should be judged on his craft, since thats whats relevant

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No Hopkins shoulder leans,but he generally fights with his head tucked,Holyfield slams that sucker in there

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

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:lol: I was just about to say that :D

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

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:lol: I was just about to say that :D

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I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

Faves:

Mayweather

Pavlik

Oscar

Roy Jones

Paulie Malignaggi

Least Faves:

Zab Judah

Jermain Taylor

Jeff Lacy

Antonio Tarver

Bernard Hopkins

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I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

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:lol: I was just about to say that :D

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I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

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Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

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:lol: I was just about to say that :D

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I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

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Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

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He fouled him in every clinch all 5000000000000 of them... Hopkins is dirty and implemented more fouling to compensate for age and deteriorating athleticism over the past few years... End of Story dude;)

Favorite Evander Holyfield Shane Mosley Least Favorite Antonio Tarver

fav
steve cunningham tuff dude and most underated
kendall holt
rj
bhop
calvin brock
paulie malignaggi
robert guerrero
james toney

least
tarver
rahman
paul williams
peterson brothers
litzau
flloyd

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

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Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

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He fouled him in every clinch all 5000000000000 of them... Hopkins is dirty and implemented more fouling to compensate for age and deteriorating athleticism over the past few years... End of Story dude;)

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Your allowed to clinch for a minute,and if you think youd survive for 5 minutes at the Blue Horizon not clinching,your only fooling yourself.
Bringing up the Tarver fight,where Bernard was fighting away is ludicrous.

And what was Tyson complaining about right before he took a chunk at of Holyfields ear?
Head butts
Holyfield even head butted Jeremy Bates for gods sake

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Your allowed to clinch for a minute,and if you think youd survive for 5 minutes at the Blue Horizon not clinching,your only fooling yourself.

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Dude is your brain already starting to atrophy from all that Tofu? What the hell does this staement have to do with the topic...
Fact#1

Hopkins was showing his age against Taylor, he was starting slow and trying to conserve and it cost him, this trend was becoming progressively stronger, until he fought Tarver and was content with tucking his head and throwing one right hand at a time, clinching holding and hitting.. Wash, rinse and repeat... Same thing against Wright.. Albeit they were all southpaws so I can see him utilizing the straight right, but Christ all mighty!!! He was throwing 15 punches per round and only 3 were legal

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Holyfield even head butted Jeremy Bates for gods sake

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Yor really full of shit on this one, seen the fight 5 times and that didnt happen, no more than any other fighters getting an inadvertent clash

If you dont like Holy then just admit it, but dont pontificate the dirtiest player in the game Ric Flair Hopkins, and then dig on Holyfield.. It looks supremely fanboyish and nuttugging

Favorites-I'm just gonna go with guys that are fighting or on the brink of retirement

Juan Diaz-don't really care so much if he's a good role model, just enjoy watching him fight

James Toney-favorite fighter ever, brilliant to watch, impeccable moral compass and fiber and all that.

Bernard Hopkins-I get why people don't like him, but I became a fan early and I'm a loyal fan if anything

Peterson Brothers-like watching them fight.

Evander Holyfield-round ten of Bowe-Holyfield I, etc.

Kelly Pavlik-Pretty fun to watch.

I'm tired of thinking, I'm sure there's more

Least favorites

Wladimir Klitschko-I'm not really concerned that he's not American, I can't have a list of fighters that I dislike and not have him on it, its just not right. Just to conform that little bit to the rules I won't include Daniel Ponce de Leon. Or Sam Peter.

Zahir Raheem-Boring boring boring, clench fall down clench fall down, whine.

Rocky Juarez-Has thrown 8 punches in his last 14 fights combined.

I'm sure there's more.

How the hell can juan diaz be classed as american???

oh thats right because he lives there.........


with that logic you could say jude law, maria sharapova and lennox lewis are all american!!!